Orkan posted this on another forum, and I can see that turning into a shit show real fast so I wanted to just copy and paste it here. So that a more civil discussion can take place. It's something I'll have to think about before I can respond.
"I have a question. Why does everyone care so much about this? Since when is it cool to kill people? Oh, I know... since hollywood told us it was. Right? I look hard to find free thinkers among you, but it's hard sometimes. A 6 page thread applauding and arguing about how far away someone can get killed. What a shameful display which has shown up on virtually every precision rifle forum in existence over this issue. If anything, it sure does prove my frequent comment that most shooters don't shoot for themselves. They shoot to impress people. Everyone so concerned with being trendy and cool all the time. People that have never served a moment of their lives, busy glorifying the military. Manufacturers sure do love it. No question about that.
I wonder though if any of you have stopped for a moment to question the now commonplace practice of militaries around the world bragging about their kills? Time was when something like this was classified with the highest authority. Now, everyone's looking for time in the spotlight... and all this crap on the forums feeds it.
Ridiculous, and shameful.
... and I look at the previous posts of some of the people commenting in this thread, and I can see so little experience. What qualifies any of us to weigh in on the merits of this issue? Were any of you there? I wasn't. Do any of you understand why they did what they did? I don't. ... but I don't have to. I don't know why they had to setup a shot at this distance, when there was obviously an observer closer. Though it's OK that I don't understand. I at least have the intelligence to know that I have ZERO information about this issue other than what the media has shared... and I'd trust satan himself before I trusted them.
What I do know without a doubt is that killing people isn't cool. It may be necessary sometimes, but it sure as hell isn't cool. It sure as hell isn't something that should result in multi-page threads on every rifle forum with a bunch of typer-snipers talking it up and vetting it out. Show a bit of respect. Get a bit of humility at least. Some of you commenting about this shot probably haven't hit a target at 1500yds much less 3000yds.
The only discussion that should be had regarding these events, is about why militaries are attention-seeking with kills on the battlefield. If THAT discussion is had, and the logical answers reached... maybe the guys wearing the uniforms can actually realize an improvement in their daily lives rather than continuing to be meat for a machine that can not be filled.