Dot Drill Report Thread



  • Can anyone clean a Primal Rights Dot Drill?

    Prove it!

    Here's the dot drill: http://primalrights.com/library/targets/half_inch_drill.pdf

    One shot per dot. NO GROUPS! NO SIGHTERS!

    Tell us the situations surrounding your dot drill. Take pictures. Post your attempts here! Don't be a douche bag and lie about it either. No limit to the amount of attempts. Submit as many targets as you want.

    Some critical information to share:

    Distance you shot the drill.
    What you used to shoot it. (rifle, cartridge, optic, etc)
    Position. (prone, sitting, kneeling, standing, etc)
    Support. (rear bag & bipod, benchrest, prone unsupported, etc)
    Method. (did you stand up between each shot? between each row? etc)
    Conditions. (was it a 20-35mph gusting wind on a 105 degree day?)

    You can use any firearm you like, at any distance you choose. Just be sure to be honest and disclose it all. This isn't about competing against each other. It's about competing against yourselves. The daily shooter challenge is getting a lot of people trigger time. Lets see if it's quality time!

    General guidelines, so we can keep from having too many spotless targets... ;) Air rifle should start at about 25yds. 22lr should start at about 40yds. Centerfire should be at 100yds.

    I'll start us off with a target I shot not 10 minutes ago. :)

    Distance: 40yds
    Rem 40X Repeater 22LR, bench, bipod/rear bag. 10-15mph wind @ 4:00. 95 degrees in the shade.

    wns6o5fh.jpg

    5pQkCreh.jpg

    The wind almost got me on a couple of those. ;) Consider the gauntlet thrown. Lets see 'em people! :smile:



  • @orkan Alrighty then, challenge ACCEPTED...:laughing:



  • Greg; What is the diameter of the dots on your target? They look to be a little under 1/2".
    Wayne



  • @rimfire they are about 1/2" and tough to hit at 100 yards lol.



  • When printed full scale, they should be right on .500", although some folks's printers might produce some variance.

    Al4kZYAl.jpg



  • This is a good idea. It will be a few days but I will definitely be participating.



  • Distance: 100yds
    TS Customs 6BR, TT315M, 95gr VLD's. 98f, 85% humidity. Wind 18-25mph @ 8:00.

    I loaded a 10rnd mag, shot two rows. Loaded the mag again, shot the last two rows. Never broke cheek weld once. (no, not even when reloading)

    It was a putrid hot sticky bitch out there. A front came through earlier and got the wind swirling hardcore. Ridiculously humid, and it screwed me. Had to wait about 10 minutes for my optic to get clear from fogging up upon walking outside. I knew the ammo would be a little slick too... so I was going to hold low for my first shots. In the name of science, I went against my instincts and sacrificed the first couple dots. They went high indeed! There's a couple others that felt like they should have been right in there that weren't. I'm shooting virgin lapua brass, and I've had some shots out before with this bunch. Oh well. In this nasty ass windy condition... I'll take it. I remember years ago, being amazed at how easily the wind moved my rifle and I around. Certainly a fine argument for huge heavy rifles.

    Just one more failed dot drill to add to the stack of hundreds I have. ;)

    9mfH2ZLh.jpg

    J4Mbi1Dh.jpg



  • @orkan 100 yards?



  • Yup. I added that :)



  • Awesome drill I'm in I'll give it a go this next week



  • Trying to get card stock to feed through my old LaserJet IV.
    Probably need a toner cartridge too.



  • A couple more attempts today.

    First up is the 6.5CM barrel in my original SRS-A1. I finally shot up the very last of my virgin hornady brass. The shots that missed low, are that damn brass. I have completely wrung that out before, shot dozens of dot drills, and the misses low always look just like that. Always low. I know myself well enough to know when it's me, or when it's not... and I don't miss by that far when the shot is honest. I'm happy I got a bunch of pieces all fired through now. :)

    Distance: 100yds
    DT SRS-A1, TS Customs 6.5CM, 140VLD. 88f, 3-6mph wind @ 2:00

    u1Azupjh.jpg
    gSCE7Sgh.jpg

    Distance: 100yds
    TS Customs 300BLK, 175SMK, 88f, 3-6mph wind @ 2:00

    I have 714rnds through this rifle now. So extremely fun to shoot. I kind of rushed through this. The mirage was severe... and I had some failing light which was getting challenging. I had an uneven number of rounds, and the light was bad enough that I couldn't see that I didn't engage a dot! I'll clean it with the BLK one of these times. :)

    rLGvf5dh.jpg
    P2tCzjDh.jpg

    Nailing 15 or so of these dots is pretty regular. I'm happy when I only have a couple misses.



  • Made a reduced dot drill target to try today at 10 yards.
    Not happy at all with my performance; had to take a step back after 12 shots. The 12 shots were standing, with a front support. After each shot the rifle is pumped 10 times and new position established. Calm to 3 mph wind from 9 o'clock, 86*F with 61% Humidity.

    4fXlWDn.jpg
    MZcZATW.jpg



  • Had to finish the 20... shot the last 8 this afternoon.
    j3uDR5j.jpg



  • That's the spirit!



  • Ugh! Damn virgin brass is costing me. I don't know if I hate anything more than new un-fired brass.

    Distance 100yds
    TS Customs 6BR, TT315M, 95gr VLD's. 80f, 65% humidity. Wind 3-5mph @ 11:00. Prone, bipod w/rear bag.

    TexXzByh.jpg
    Y2aUKfih.jpg



  • Finally decided to give the dot drill a whirl last night. I hadn't attempted it before :) Shot Orkan's original single shot 40x. It was a bit difficult as I'm left eye dominant and I've never shot a single shot rifle more than 1 round. I kept pulling the rear bag out from under the gun, breaking cheek weld and all sorts of awkwardness. But I got'er done :)

    The wind tried to get me a few times, but it only succeeded once :D

    40 yards, 80 degrees, wind 4-7 coming from my 3 o'clock.
    3c1xgHb.jpg
    WzAAB3O.jpg



  • Nice :+1:



  • @gash Awesome shooting!:smile:



  • Not so awesome..:frowning:
    84*F, 63% humidity, wind 23 gusts to 31 from 10:00 o:clock; 914.4 CM with reduced target.
    http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=20.8733133&lon=-156.46286320000002&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Kahului%2C HI 96732%2C USA#.V5kN3tQrLeN
    KVn1yPq.jpg



  • 9/20 only one flier that I know was because of the Savage.

    50 yards
    22lr
    Prone
    Bipod
    Rear bag
    Shots only count if half the bullet lands in the circle

    Dkgmi0g.jpg

    Had 5 left over shots and tried to kill Greg's wolf, missed.



  • @rhyno said:

    Had 5 left over shots and tried to kill Greg's wolf, missed.

    Sleep with one eye open and some firepower handy. He's probably coming. ;)



  • Partly Cloudy and Breezy
    86°F
    30°C
    Humidity 53%
    Wind Speed NE 24 G 35 mph (about 10-10:30)
    Barometer 30.02 in (1017.0 mb)
    Dewpoint 67°F (19°C)
    Visibility 10.00 mi
    Heat Index 89°F (32°C)
    Last update 28 Jul 9:54 am HST
    914.4CM front support
    Not a clean, but progress. Position changed and rifle gets 10 pumps after each shot.
    8wiEvBa.jpg



  • 50 yards
    20 shots
    Prone, bipod, rear bag.

    12/20

    Cold bore will probably make this impossible with this rifle.

    aJ7zkhK.jpg



  • Went 10/20 today

    F6351CQ.jpg



  • CB was close, but wind gusts made it difficult fun day.

    Dnf8Vue.jpg



  • 50 y from bench. Win 52. Almost no wind.

    The last 7 shots went left and I'm not sure why. I held the last three to bring them back to center.

    I had 19 that cut the black circle. And 15 that more than 1/2 were inside the circle.

    11419FD5-EBEA-4F97-8959-27612ED22AEC_zps6yllrqxe.jpg



  • Nice shooting!



  • What he said^^^^:smiley:



  • Terrible, cold bore was way high, zero shifted .2 mil for whatever reason.

    Then when I changed mags it shifted again. Frustrating pretty sure it's not me, rifle certainly isn't the best, stock isn't the best.

    Ahh well.

    2LyZCKR.jpg

    Begining atmospheres
    75.3 f
    27.86 inhg
    83.9% H20
    3807 DA

    Ending atmospheres
    77.1 f
    27.86 inhg
    85.9% H20
    3900 DA

    3-6 mph winds from about 5:30



  • @rhyno said:

    Terrible, cold bore was way high, zero shifted .2 mil for whatever reason.

    Then when I changed mags it shifted again. Frustrating pretty sure it's not me, rifle certainly isn't the best, stock isn't the best.

    Ahh well.

    2LyZCKR.jpg

    Begining atmospheres
    75.3 f
    27.86 inhg
    83.9% H20
    3807 DA

    Ending atmospheres
    77.1 f
    27.86 inhg
    85.9% H20
    3900 DA

    3-6 mph winds from about 5:30

    I am betting you are better than your rifle. You had six in a row...and that usually doesn't happen by accident.



  • Slight wind. Had to hold right side of dots. 50 yards. Win 52.

    I honestly believe that number 14 was the fault of the ammo...but I could be wrong.

    19 touching, 14 more than 1/2 inside, and 9 completely in the black.

    57325E2B-93DA-4B80-AD91-A758437FBDE1_zpswc4cnqyu.jpg



  • Humidity 67%
    Wind Speed NE 17 G 28 mph
    Barometer 30.01 in (1016.5 mb)
    Dewpoint 71°F (22°C)
    Visibility 10.00 mi
    Heat Index 88°F (31°C)
    Last update 2 Aug
    12 out of 15:smile:
    These projectiles seem to shoot a bit better than the last batch. I am going to weigh them out to see if those high flyers dissapear.
    ZdRybGe.jpg
    And ..uh sorry about your pooch, Greg.:laughing:



  • Windy down the slot. These projectiles are much better.
    5Kbv2pO.jpg



  • TFo7su7.jpg



  • Yeesh only 1 hit today, but that hit was dead nutz.

    It was all me today can't blame the rifle.

    2d7F6jS.jpg



  • On the last two rows you could move the dots and cover the holes. You might move your zero up and left a little and hit more dots. Your holes are off, but they are somewhat consistent.



  • That was my plan for tomorrow.

    I didn't want to make adjustments today to see if a pattern developed.

    Assuming it doesn't shift which this rifle has been known to do. Haha.

    Ahh the joys of cheap equipment.



  • Better today...but still room to improve. I did notice (as I have been told by @orkan ) that my right hand grip makes a difference. The ones that were slightly off were when I subconsciously had a looser, tighter, or slightly up or down grip. The last 10 I concentrated very hard on getting exactly the same grip every time...and I was rewarded with more dots center punched.

    F4172ADB-C150-45A9-8334-9A960244B000_zps7kx7ofbh.jpg



  • Looking good! :)



  • DT SRS 308
    100y. Negligible wind.
    Virgin brass...sized before seating bullet.

    I think the virgin brass is more consistent when I run it through the sizer first.

    The 20 rounds were shot rather quickly as it was getting dark. The last 6 would almost be in the same hole...but off of center. Is that how I was holding the gun, or the hot barrel? I don't feel like I changed how I was holding...but don't know. I pulled a few (last one for sure). The cold bore was off...might have been me or brass...I will watch it.

    I think dot drills are more beneficial than groups. If I miss the second shot in a group I get discouraged and tend to try less. If a dot drill shot is off it is only one and each one is a new challenge. Dot drills also reveal patterns.

    37A70546-175C-4C6B-89D4-F64D94F04770_zps1fjyouea.jpg



  • Was that at 25X?
    Do you think 20X is enough magnification at 100 yards?



  • @hypo

    20x's is plenty for 100y. That was at 25x's. Even the 15x's of the smaller TT would be plenty at 100.



  • Reviving a thread from the depths of the archive. Lol.

    I didn’t get them all, but got a few.

    40x at 50 yards

    JQu3crx.jpg

    3tbavte.jpg



  • Almost got em. :)



  • ddd you inspired me. Stuck at home is getting boring. I only have 35 yards to shoot suppressed 22lr in my yard. I am shooting from back in my garage. Unfortunately I live in a neighborhood on an Acre and a quarter wooded lot but not enough, need another 20 acres. Logs make a good back drop and easy to staple to.
    xXv8SzO.jpg
    I need to keep this practice up. A little sloppy on a few shots.
    Used GECO ammo.
    Thanks for the inspiration.



  • @tpk936 said in Dot Drill Report Thread:

    ddd you inspired me. Stuck at home is getting boring. I only have 35 yards to shoot suppressed 22lr in my yard. I am shooting from back in my garage. Unfortunately I live in a neighborhood on an Acre and a quarter wooded lot but not enough, need another 20 acres. Logs make a good back drop and easy to staple to.
    xXv8SzO.jpg
    I need to keep this practice up. A little sloppy on a few shots.
    Used GECO ammo.
    Thanks for the inspiration.

    Pretty clean. Looks good.