Great video about open carry
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They have some good information there on a regular basis.:grin:
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That's why you have to wear a level 3 holster. That guy was using a level 1 holster.
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I cringe when I see someone open carrying. I do believe it should be legal...but it is unwise. Most people who have thought it through will realize the importance of concealing a weapon. Most who open carry are mall ninjas just saying "look at me...I have a gun"...and before someone gets offended...there are exceptions to both rules.
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Great post ddd, I agree a lot. :)
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Open or concealed is a moot point here; realistically can't do either.
There was a time and place I was legally able to employ both, depending on the situation.
I agree with 3d as well as superman; as sometimes open carry is the viable option.
That video shows an individual that more than likely falls into the "look at me I've got a gun category."
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Can you share some situations where open carry would be more desirable than concealed?
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@orkan said:
Can you share some situations where open carry would be more desirable than concealed?
I never did carry concealed while on horseback. I would usually, probably always, carry open while working on my property in Northern Az.
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I open carry when deer hunting. Air light 44 on my hip...kinda hard to conceal.
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Indeed, those situations seem self evident, as you are not among lots of people.
Can you share a situation when it would be a good idea to open carry in a city or metro area, where frequent crime and gang members are present?
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In an urban setting, concealed is definitely the way to carry.
I need to add that my experiences are a bit dated. I have not lived in a state where concealed or open carry is permitted since Jan. 2001.
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@orkan said:
Can you share a situation when it would be a good idea to open carry in a city or metro area, where frequent crime and gang members are present?
No
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@orkan said:
Indeed, those situations seem self evident, as you are not among lots of people.
Can you share a situation when it would be a good idea to open carry in a city or metro area, where frequent crime and gang members are present?
Nope I can't. I have, but I'm very careful about it. If I go out to the desert and shoot I open carry, I don't stop carrying when I stop to grab a soda or gas. But I'm damn sure to look around at everyone and , keep my arm/hand near my gun.
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@superman1216 said:
That's why you have to wear a level 3 holster. That guy was using a level 1 holster.
The only issue I see here is you're still advertising you have a gun, and now someone just tried to grab it. What now.
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@orkan said:
Indeed, those situations seem self evident, as you are not among lots of people.
Can you share a situation when it would be a good idea to open carry in a city or metro area, where frequent crime and gang members are present?
Driving is the only thing I think that would be close.
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The element of surprise is an awfully powerful tool.
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@orkan said:
Indeed, those situations seem self evident, as you are not among lots of people.
Can you share a situation when it would be a good idea to open carry in a city or metro area, where frequent crime and gang members are present?
The only situation I can think of to open carry is where conceal carry laws restrict non-residents to conceal carry however open carry is legal for all. This was the case in Nevada awhile back. The only folks who could conceal carry were those with Nevada license and only one state's conceal carry permit was recognized, however open carry by anyone was perfectly legal. I don't know if this is still the case, but I remember discussing this with Orkan awhile back before he went to SHOT in Vegas, as we were trying to figure out the options. However, I don't know if I'd open carry then because I think open carrying makes you a target in metro areas.
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Beyond the fact that it makes you a target there are many other reasons that it is not wise when around a lot of people. A few years ago I had a conversation with a lawyer who specialized in defending individuals in gun related cases (with the Legal Heat program) and he gave a couple insights I had not considered. First even if it is legal if it makes the wrong person uncomfortable the police are still going to be called and it is possible to get tagged for disturbing the peace if you get the wrong officer. Second if you get into any kind of disagreement while open carrying (something doesn't ring up at the right price, or someone accuses you of things you didn't do) they can tell police that you motioned toward your gun and they felt threatened and you will get tagged for brandishing a firearm. While both of these cases may be easily beaten in court or even get tossed out by the right judge the headache and financial cost is not worth the risk. That is just my two cents take it or leave it.
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@tunnel-ratt yup makes you a target for all sorts of undesirable bs.
Off topic: Absolutely blows me away that open carry and guns in general can cause such an upset yet a man dressed as a woman or two folks of the same sex in a relationship doesn't. :angry: The later is way more dangerous than the guns we all love.
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ANTI-GUNNERS PUT BULL'S-EYE ON OPEN-CARRY PERMIT HOLDERS
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/anti-gunners-put-bulls-eye-on-open-carry-permit-holders/
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Yuck.
Just because I don't agree with open carry, doesn't mean I want it to be illegal. It should be legal everywhere.
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@orkan said:
Just because I don't agree with open carry, doesn't mean I want it to be illegal. It should be legal everywhere.
Yes, it should be and those that choose to open carry, and do so responsibly, should be able to do so with out being harassed.