The Loading Log



  • While everyone was snoring away on the mainland US, I went on a priming binge last night, CPS LITE in action. I am slow, but then I check each and everyone before moving on to the next one.
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  • @mamalukino

    As in you measure the depth below flush for each primed case? Damn, that's some commitment.

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  • @ragnarnar
    I was thinking about that last night and came to the conclusion that nothing is going to shift. I am simply amazed at the consistent depth. I need to stop being so anal.:laughing:
    On another note, when its midnight CTZ it is only 7 pm here.

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  • @mamalukino said:

    On another note, when its midnight CTZ it is only 7 pm here.

    Wow...no wonder you get so much done. You have 5 more hours in a day than we do over here!



  • @dddoo7 LOL , I see you up after MN quite a bit.

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  • @mamalukino

    Yep. I stay up till midnight a lot of nights...and then I check my phone every time I wake up...usually a couple times a night.



  • Man midnight is soooo late these days. hehe

    Good for you all for being able to do little sleep and still function well.

    @mamalukino what time is sunrise and sunset where you are? Is your actual daylight a little less than ours? Sun up is 6:30a and sun set is 8:30p for us.

    "A woman trying to function like a man is as ridiculous as a man trying to be like a woman. A unisex society is a senseless society—a society dangerously out of order. " - DP

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  • @gash
    Had to look it up, lol :laughing:
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    Friday, April 28, 2017 (HST)
    Sunrise

    6:49 PM
    Thursday, April 27, 2017 (HST)
    Sunset

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  • Hand cramps, from chamfering and de-burring case mouths by hand.

    Is is possible to wear out a primer pocket crimp remover reamer?
    just a light bevel to remove the crimp?
    Chucked it into a drill and am using mechanics gloves to hold the case.
    The Lyman drill mounted trimmer is working decently once I got a chip out of the threads that kept it too long.

    I need more trays and to steal some Tupperware from the kitchen.

    A big flat one to work over so that chips and wharf stays collected in one spot.



  • @hypo

    If you are reaming primer pockets you will love the Dillon 600 swager. It is much easier and faster. Not quite as nice as the 1050, but much cheaper.

    However...the easiest way to process brass is to let me do it for you. $0.07 each plus shipping includes decapping, swaging, sizing, trimming, SS tumbling, and annealing. Trimming is done with a Dillon trimmer. It is suare trimmed and works well with boat tail jacketed bullets. For chamfer and debur trim on giuard it is $0.02 extra.



  • I would rather prime load and shoot but this is something i can do after dark.



  • I got a pile of 223 brass to reload. Going to be working in that over the next week.



  • Got 150+ ready to prime and load. Cordless drill battery died.
    Will load 100 tonight = one MTM plastic storage box.

    Assembling the Lee single stage next.
    Watching the Crock pot with a roast in it as my chore while everyone else is out.



  • Quick question...on my last batch of .223 AR target rounds I ran them through my progressive and didn't get the bullet seated deep enough to fit in the mag. I also ran the rounds through a Lee factory crimp die, so they have a slight roll crimp on them.

    Can I adjust the depth on the bullets with the crimp there?



  • @norcal_in_az
    Depends on the crimp.
    Try 1 and see if it will move without distorting the brass.
    Check them with a cartridge case length headspace gauge like the wilson to make sure.

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  • @mamalukino said:

    Try 1 and see if it will move without distorting the brass.

    I'd be more worried about it deforming the bullet meplat/ogive than the brass. ... but yeah, about the only way to see is to give it a try.

    ... and then stop crimping. ;)



  • @orkan said:

    @mamalukino said:

    Try 1 and see if it will move without distorting the brass.

    I'd be more worried about it deforming the bullet meplat/ogive than the brass. ... but yeah, about the only way to see is to give it a try.

    ... and then stop crimping. ;)

    Even for semi auto?



  • This is nice to have for an AR.
    https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/highpower-competition/service-rifle-accessories/original-bob-sled-long.html

    Great for slow fire prone, standing or at a bench.
    They also have a shorter one for match or pure bench rest use.

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    https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/highpower-competition/match-rifle-accessories/original-bob-sled-short.html

    No need to worry about crimps single loading.
    If it was going to be bouncing around in a truck to grab and hit a target of opportunity such as a coyote, I could see possibly needing a crimp.

    The better boxed ammo isn't crimped.
    Uncle Sam may need it.
    The 75 HPBT next to the bed that hopefully never gets used except for practice shouldn't need a crimp.



  • I just busted open a new box of 500 SMK's. They are weight sorted and ready to go. This box was more consistent than the last box by far. Lightest is 174.96 and heaviest was 175.24. About half of them were in the 175.00-175.08 box and another half of them were in the 175.10-175.18 box. I might sort a little farther just to try and eliminate some more variables. I think I can get 150 or so in the 175.08-175.12 range which would be much tighter than the groups are now.

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  • I got 100 rounds of 123 SMKs loaded for next weekend last night.

    I want to do another 40 but I ran out of brass so I'll have to shoot another box of prime.



  • 150 6BR and 50 22CM in the hopper sharing some wax and carbon with the rice. :)

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  • @orkan Wax and carbon? Due you add something.

    BTW At first glance I thought you were playing music for the brass...a little unknown secret to precision and accuracy; but after looking closely I realized my mistake..:laughing:

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  • @mamalukino After resizing, imperial wax is all over the case. Carbon from burnt propellant inside the case. ... sharing it with the rice... u know?

    sigh I guess it was only funny to me. I'm tumbling some fucking 6br and 22cm brass dammit. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:



  • @orkan said:

    @mamalukino After resizing, imperial wax is all over the case. Carbon from burnt propellant inside the case. ... sharing it with the rice... u know?

    sigh I guess it was only funny to me. I'm tumbling some fucking 6br and 22cm brass dammit. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    Ahh, thought you added something....

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  • I've pulled the handle on the co-ax over 1400 times today so far. I wish I had a clicker on this thing since I got it. I'd be curious to know just how many times I've pulled that lever.



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  • Let's go shoot!!!
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  • Loaded up some 6.5 Creedmoor last thursday. 140vld in front of 41gr of H4350. I've been lacking in the photography department lately, so here is a picture of them getting ready to do their job again!

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  • Got it mounted.
    Sapele plank

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  • Mounted on the kitchen island I can de-prime right into the trash can.
    That is after dinner is put away and dishes done of course.



  • @hypo said:

    Mounted on the kitchen island I can de-prime right into the trash can.
    That is after dinner is put away and dishes done of course.

    Man...forget the plank and just drill holes and mount that press directly to the kitchen counter. Your wife can use it as a pecan cracker when you are not using it.



  • I have considered a European style woodworking bench as the kitchen island.

    http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/workbenches-hardware.aspx

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  • @hypo

    There is no reason that wouldn't work and work well. My wife would be proud to have an island like that in her kitchen.

    This is completely off topic for the thread...but I am planning a new dining room table for our house.

    We have people over almost every Friday night (not this week though :) . We have to get the card table out every week to have enough seats. I want to make a table out of 1x4 pine stood on end and glued together. I want it to be 48" wide and 12' long. It will be heavy...but should work well and won't cost too much. I despise modern furniture. It is expensive and made out of partical board.



  • @dddoo7 said:

    @hypo

    There is no reason that wouldn't work and work well. My wife would be proud to have an island like that in her kitchen.

    This is completely off topic for the thread...but I am planning a new dining room table for our house.

    We have people over almost every Friday night (not this week though :) . We have to get the card table out every week to have enough seats. I want to make a table out of 1x4 pine stood on end and glued together. I want it to be 48" wide and 12' long. It will be heavy...but should work well and won't cost too much. I despise modern furniture. It is expensive and made out of partical board.

    Check out Rouge Engineer. He has tons of great plans for stuff just like this.



  • @norcal_in_az

    Big boy erector set.

    http://www.unistrut.us/



  • So I loaded up about 200 rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor tonight. I filled my chargemaster with what I thought would be "just enough" to get the job done. I sure cut it close to having to dump more in tonight!

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  • Any reason not to leave primers in the feed tube? I have a full load of 100 in the tube ready to prime and it will be a few days before I can prime. Never left them in before.

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  • @mamalukino

    I was wondering that the other day.
    It occurs to me that the little slip case/box things most primers come in aren't exactly sealed from the environment.
    Maybe if it were hermetically sealed it would be an issue?

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  • @ragnarnar
    I was concerned as to a chemical or electrolysis type of reaction to the aluminum tube.

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  • That is something I had not considered. I've left primers in tubes for months and haven't had an issue.

    You'd need an electrolyte, I'd think, which might be more of an issue for you.....

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  • @ragnarnar said:

    That is something I had not considered. I've left primers in tubes for months and haven't had an issue.

    You'd need an electrolyte, I'd think, which might be more of an issue for you.....

    Yes, the humidity is high and the air is salty here 99% of the time.
    I usually keep my primers in ammo cans with desiccant.

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  • @ragnarnar said:

    That is something I had not considered. I've left primers in tubes for months and haven't had an issue.

    You'd need an electrolyte, I'd think, which might be more of an issue for you.....

    Yes you need an electrolyte to complete the cycle. But its not your primers that will corrode, its the tubes. The aluminum will sacrifice itself to protect the brass. Its called cathodic protection.

    See the chart on this page.



  • I loaded up 155 rounds of AR bulk loads yesterday. I only did 155 because I ran out of powder lol. Need to buy a few more pounds of BL-C2. I love having the progressive up and running now for bulk stuff. I loaded that 155 in only about an hour.



  • I've left primers out for months at a time in the tubes and they worked fine. Haven't done any real analytical testing though. I remember watching something about primers which said they had a sealant sprayed over them after creation to ensure nothing can get at the pellet directly.

    Primers tend to be pretty tough. Well at least that is my experience with the CCI's I predominately shoot.



  • I leave the tubes loaded in both my cps and dillon machines. If at some point they corrode...they are cheap and I can buy more tubes.



  • Maybe I am a bit slow and this is common knowledge......
    I primed 20 cases today.
    When that happy task was completed I scratched my head as to how to remove the primer feed tube from the CPS_LITE while it still held 80 primers.
    Well, I had noticed while setting up the tool yesterday that there is a hole all the way thru the primer feed when the feed slide is fully extended.
    This allows a small diameter rod (or in my case a hex wrench) to push the primers up into the tube enough to get the retention pin in 1 side far enough to prevent the primers from coming out.
    The tube is then able to be removed from the CPS_LITE body and turned upside down allowing the proper installation of the retainer and NO runaway primers!!:laughing:
    I thought I would share this newly gained knowledge, in the hope that I wasn't the last person to figure this out and someone thought it was useful....:laughing:

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  • Useful indeed. :)

    I typically just unscrew the shell holder retainer and flip the entire shuttle system over and then take the tube out of the shuttle and put a pin in. ;)



  • Trimmed roughly 225 pieces of 6.5 Creedmoor brass yesterday

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    then primed and loaded them last night.

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  • Can some of you share/show how you trim, chamfer, and deburr brass, what tools you use and why you prefer your tools of choice. This is the most time consuming operation for me.



  • @ramirojpc said:

    Can some of you share/show how you trim, chamfer, and deburr brass, what tools you use and why you prefer your tools of choice. This is the most time consuming operation for me.

    I use a Lyman case trimmer with my cordless drill to trim. Then I have a Hornady case trio prep center. I run the inside/outside chamfer tools and the primer pocket cleaner. It's not the fastest, but it's a lot easier than using hand tools.

    You want the best fastest way to trim, get a Giruad.


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