Zero Force Firing

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    John 8:32, “and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

  • The end talking about clearing your mind and staying in the present. I call it focusing on my W.I.N. (what's important now) . I find this directly correlates to performing whatever task I am doing at a higher level. I am finding the series very helpful and writing down key points to refocus on. Thank you for taking the time.

  • I have read Greg's articles many, many times over the years. I have been to one of Greg's classes. I have mentally been over the multiple steps of this process so many times I can pretty much recite the entire sequence from memory. But after watching these videos, I am now realizing that I may know the words to describe them, but I am lost in the act of actually implementing them.

    I know what to do, at least in the sense of describing the steps in words. I have actually done it reasonably correctly before. I have felt that perfect shot (or at least close enough to perfect to know roughly what it is). But watching Greg in these videos, particularly the last two, makes me realize why I have been struggling to progress for the last couple of years.

    I know I have not been doing everything correctly, because my results dictate that to be the only possibility. But I have not been able to figure out exactly where my problem has been. After observing Greg behind the rifle in these videos, now I know why I am having trouble.

    Actually, I still don't know exactly why, but the level of comfort and relaxation he shows is nothing like the way I feel behind my rifles. Maybe it is unconscious tension from having so many bad days at the range. Maybe it is me trying to force my position so many times into something unnatural in search of the magic change that will fix it all, I have lost the memory of what natural feels like. I really don't know at this point. But I am so far from what I see in these videos, I am simply nowhere near the proverbial target. I am not even on paper.

    And now it is psychologically hindering me. I go to the range, and there is literal dread at pulling the trigger, because I know with near 100% certainty that the shot is going to be a failure. Considering every one of the previous 500 shots had been failures, why would I expect anything different with 501? And I am lost as to why, or how to go about fixing it. It has gotten to the point a part of me really doesn't want to go any more.

    This all just reinforces where I had gotten with all of this, that there is no point in my going back to the range until I can review and/or repair every step of my technique. I wasn't 100% sure that was going to be the solution, until I watched this. I don't know if I can ever look that natural behind a rifle, but I am going to have to figure out how to get a lot closer than I am now, it is the only way for me to get past this performance rut I am stuck in. Until I can find some of that comfort and confidence for myself, there is no point leaving my living room floor.

    So I need to drop everything I have learned up to this point, throw it out, and start from the beginning. I need to re-approach everything I am doing, all of my equipment setup, LOP, eyebox, cheek riser, literally everything needs to be re-examined. I need to keep what is right, and recondition myself where things are wrong.

    Needless to say, these videos have been very enlightening. I don't know how much feedback you have been getting, but these are the best thing I could have right now in my journey. Thank you to both of you.

  • So true. I find myself getting fatigued faster than I used to of course I have 62 reasons for that but shooting a rifle shouldn't be like digging post holes. Lots of solid points in this class if you are using all these muscles that aren't needed you are going to run out of gas quick and then disgust sets in and you might as well be throwing rocks. I knew something has been wrong I just didn't know how to correct it I'm getting a grip on it now. I sat down a few weeks ago and shot around 150 rounds in a session and the next day I felt like I had been hauling hay. Shooting like that is really non productive and does little for morale but I'm not giving up it's one of the few things I still enjoy. No more fishing or being near the water but I have the freedom to step out of my house and shoot until that is taken away. I sure hope not.

  • For me, doing it right is mentally exhausting at this point as well. I still don't have it down to where my subconscious has taken over the actions, so I run through a mental checklist with every shot. After a 20 round dot drill I am mentally exhausted and ready for a break.

  • My phone is always available to anyone that would like assistance. 605-554-1911

    Just be aware, that if you are unwilling to make correct decisions and are dead set on working it out yourself... there will not be much I can do to assist you.

    I have had quite a lot of success mentoring shooters when they allow me to influence their techniques and equipment choices. No amount of my help can change anything if you don't want to be influenced. Some of you have a real problem with that. ;)

  • « Good morning everyone, ‘morning Daniel, ‘morning Greg » (I love that intro :D)

    I came here after seeing the Zero Force Firing video, made several research, few tests, one question remains : how to correctly put my head on the stock ?

    Before discovering the Bullet from the Bible, I knew my reticle jumped high and left (5mil, 308W) but didn’t know why.

    After discovering the série and made some introspection, i came to a conclusion : my most problem is my head position.

    Gred said “let your head mass lay on the stock” but it feels odd since we don’t want any force apply on the stock, how is it possible to not change the rifle NPA if I put my whole head on the stock. When I put it on the cheek piece, the reticle goes high. It’s kind of basic physics but not what I understand from the video.

    Can you enlighten me ? I feel I miss something important and don’t want to continue the serie without that piece of fundamental in mind.

    Have a nice day !

  • @alald

    Thank you so much for the feedback!!! I appreciate it.

    This is one concept that I didn’t understand until I went through Greg’s class a few years ago. I will, however, let Greg explain it because I know his understanding of the shooting principles are light years beyond mine.

  • @alald we will spend some time on this tomorrow morning.