Barndominium Addition



  • A few pictures of the additions progress I started several weeks ago. We are bogged down right now with the holiday and waiting for an air conditioning contractor that just can't seem to get to me. Once he has done some receivers and duct work we can proceed with the foam insulation and I can get the walls and ceiling covered up. I did the wiring and plumbing and cased out the three windows and two doors. When you frame inside a metal building the window sills end up being about ten inches deep and there's a couple of ways to do them I just case them with 3/4 birch plywood and paint it you can also sheetrock in there as well. Since there was no plumbing in the slab it all runs on the surface and through walls and requires back flush toilets and either raised tubs and showers or jack hammer the slab out for drains. We did hammer out for the tub in the expansion and put the trap outside so we didn't have to get into a perimeter beam and deal with cutting rebar. I'll have to finish covering the trap or it could freeze in cold weather being it's exposed. I got most of the new drain line covered so it should be ok. Doesn't look too pretty but not too much I can do about it unless I put in a lift tank and a pump. We have a nice loft for storage and the welder that built the metal building is going to make me a kind of a dumb waiter or elevator to move stuff up and down from the loft. He has made them before and would be handy moving items without having to struggle with a ladder. Don't have enough room in the rest of the shop for a staircase. lsbhlI0.jpg
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  • A couple more of the window detail and framing.
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    My cramped new workspace.
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  • A few pictures of the lean to we turned into living quarters a few years back. This is where we are staying now as the old house is full of our stuff from the move and will continue once the other rooms are finished. Hopefully we can get some of the furniture out of the house and make room for guests if we ever have any and do some other repairs on it. The original plan was the barn was going to be storage for the tractor and Polaris and all the stuff we use around here like sprayers and tools. Once we started the second remodel on the old house I bought a FEMA trailer and parked it under the lean to and stored most of the personal stuff from the house in it so we could make some room in the house to paint. I even had thought about renting the house but got that out of my system pretty quick. First the outer walls had to be fabricated and some ceiling joists then I went inside and framed the bathroom and closet and the living area. Some of the framing was strip framing and the rest was conventional 2x4 stud framing. I used 1x4 pine for strips on the three exterior walls that were added. It made the wall thickness narrower than if I had studded walls like the new part I am currently doing. It took more labor to do the stripping but still works fine. When it was all done we had about 45 dollars a square foot in this part including a/c and appliances. Only labor was the foam insulation and flooring and I had a friend of mine help me frame and wire it. My wife and I did the rest. The guy that did the vinyl plank floor did my backsplash in the kitchen. I bought laminate counter tops that were a little over 600 bucks installed. The cabinets were built in my shop in Palacios and some of the furniture as well.
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    I forgot I did have to get Marvin back to do the metal work and he doesn't work for free. He is very reasonable though and as a matter of fact I owe him for some work he did over a month ago. Maybe he's waiting for Christmas to lay it on me.



  • I'm having a time with the pictures for some reason.
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  • Very cool. Excellent cabinetry work!



  • @orkan Thanks, I kind of build them my way since I never worked with a professional cabinet builder. Cabinets are really just boxes it's the doors and other details that take some accurate tools to pull off. Just like machining repeatability is the key to success. If all the dimensions are accurately cut you stand a good chance of everything being square. An eighth inch looks like a foot when you are out of square. I'm going to take a stab at building the bathroom cabinets here in the shop so I have to pull some tools out of the storage container since I'm short on room in the shop. These cabinets are red oak which is my favorite material to use. I have built ash and maple pieces as well but oak is my preferred wood.



  • I'm in the process of building another set of "boxes and doors" for my new reloading room right now. ;)

    Suffice it to say, I too am self taught, and a pro cabinet maker would cringe at the sight of what I'm doing. lol



  • @orkan I think you have a pretty sharp eye for detail and that's what it's about and some sharp saw blades. The best gadget I bought is a Kreg Junior pocket screw jig for making the face frames. I used to toe nail them together or use blocks on the back side of joints some people call them nailers. You can do all kinds of things with pocket screws and believe me Kreg has plenty of educational material out there. Nice doors and drawer slabs can be made with minimal tools and if you have a router you can do some detailing with roundover bits and such. You can also make some pretty nice doors with mouldings I have done a few of them. Just need a miter saw and a brad nailer. And use glue, I glue every joint whether it needs it or not. The nails are just clamps and if they get loose you have a loose joint.



  • Here's the start of building shaker style doors. Basically a tongue and groove operation done on a shaper or in my case a router table. You have to keep all the pieces orientated the same way after making the grooves and tenons in the router table. If you flip a piece over the joint will be off and looks bad. A production door shop has way better machines than a router table I have seen them demonstrated in person. They spit out doors at an alarming rate and most cabinet makers build the boxes and then buy the doors from a door shop. Raised panel doors take some very sophisticated equipment however they can be made with conventional tools. I never tried doing any just flat panel stuff.
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  • @bigfoot Here's the set up to do the banding on the style of doors in my kitchen. I have used this style for several other jobs. One run of cabinets I did had inset doors and drawer fronts in this style. You have to use inset Euro type hinges and make the openings pretty precise for the exact reveal. I did mess up on a couple when I first started making them.
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    A cute little kitchen I did for a contractor at a vacation home. He did the painting and the total remodel I'm not too happy with his shadowing detail on the styles and rails. Owner requested it and they were happy that's all that matters. Those tiny drawers were a killer to get the hardware in and the wine rack gave me some grief.
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  • Big week ahead. The air conditioning contractor finally started on my system. I fired him then called him back after two other bids that just didn't set well with me actually it was not the cost but their attitude. Now it seems like everything is in fast forward the foam insulation guy texted me and is coming a day early and the sheetrock guy wants to meet Saturday. Two months ago they were invisible. Time to get er' done hopefully.



  • We got the insulation shot in yesterday so that's one step ahead. The ac guys even showed up today to do some work.
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  • I forget when they started on this, maybe two weeks ago and here we are. With the exception of one day they come and work about three hours then take off. I waited around all day Friday for them to show up and also the sheetrock guy. The sheetrock guy sent me a text and cancelled around two pm but added if I wanted too I could meet him Saturday at the crack of dawn to give him some money for materials. That didn't happen. I sound like I am complaining but I know this isn't the building industry standard for conduct or maybe it is now. SMH.
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  • @bigfoot If I've learned anything in life, it's that the vast majority of construction contractors are scam artists. Anything that has to do with building of a new home, or any of its systems, is rife with laziness, apathy, and malevolence. After having gone through it, I don't think I will ever do it again as long as I live, regardless of my financial situation.



  • @orkan Good ones are as they say "Rare as hens teeth". I worked with some exceptional people on a few jobs and got spoiled I guess.



  • Sheet rock is all done. They shot the texture today and are supposed to come prime tomorrow. We have had excellent weather for it with very low humidity numbers. It must just be me the second day they showed up and didn't have any screws so off to town we go. Other than that it's going good.
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  • We caught some really good weather and the sheetrock guy finished painting last Tuesday. I called the ac contractor and got him back out here and by Thursday they had the unit running. They installed two return air ducts but the unit is starving for air so they had to do some thinking and were supposed to return this Monday but never showed. I finally broke down and called yesterday and was promised they would be here today at 10:30 and do something with the return air. Now it's 37 degrees and raining and they haven't shown yet and it's fine with me they will just be tracking mud everywhere. It's supposed to drop down in the twenties gradually over the weekend but we can run the heat just sounds like a jet engine in the room. I spent most of one day putting ceiling fans together and light fixtures and boy was that fun. Clumsy fingers don't operate like they used to and cheater glasses are necessary. I moved on to putting receptacle and switch plates on to discover the cut outs for the new work boxes were either too large for standard plates to cover or they were too small and the boxes were trapped behind the sheetrock and the nails were bent making a mess of everything. I normally have to shim a couple of outlets to get them flush but every last one in here has to be worked on and I have a bunch I like plenty of plugs. I couldn't find any mid sized covers locally so I had to order them and are just about through straightening them up. Something to do on a rainy day.
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  • I put some led lights in too. Man they are bright.
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  • The ac guys got here a little late yesterday and they got the other return air in and changed the fan settings to adjust the air flow and got all the noise out of the system. We will be putting the heat pump to the test the next few days the forecast is freezing rain then maybe some snow then clearing and dropping into the teens around Tuesday and remaining cold next week. I have a feeling we will have to use the strip heat and disable the heat pump. Maybe not they have come a long way since I last bought one of these things. I originally planned to build the bathroom cabinets but I got a bid on the counter tops and also the cabinets from the same place. I pretty much talked myself out of hustling materials and bringing my tools out of storage to build them also the hassle of finishing them. We're getting a bit anxious to finish this up and move some furniture in. At this point saving a few hundred bucks just isn't worth it. We have a flooring guy coming shortly and have vinyl plank that matches the other room in the addition and once that is done only the tub enclosure is left and the same guy is doing that as well. Tile should be here this week maybe he will start in a few days.



  • https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hubbell-3-Pack-2-25-in-W-x-4-25-in-L-Silver-Steel-Wall-Plate-Spacers/1000049853

    I have used these many times. They can help correct sloppy electrician/drywall guys.



  • @dddoo7 I saw some of those at the local Ace and I used something similar one time that was a box extender. They are good if something drastic has happened like another layer of dry wall and tile. I had a few outlet shims in my electrical bag and ended up ordering four more packages. They work ok but three is about all you can stack then the screws are too short. I have seen lots of receptacles held in with drywall screws when this happens.





  • Shims for sure work too. I used to carry around 1/2” cpvc and a pvc cutter to make custom shims.

    I have had to use drywall screws several times to reach the box. Not my doing, but fixing others doings. Lol.



  • @dddoo7 Hey, watch it! I was the electrician. Just kidding. I was so careful nailing the boxes in I used a piece of 1/2" plywood to gauge the boxes and a palm nailer to drive the nails in perfectly straight. If one was tilted I wedged it until it was straight. It's done now I can quit griping I have to clean out a cat 5 plug that somehow got paint in it and it was taped off. Probably need to put a new plug on the cable but I gave away my cat 5 crimper like an idiot. Internet guys wired these up for me.