Best rifle actions for PRS competition
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I'm looking into putting together a serious PRS comp rifle for next year. One of the actions I am giving serious consideration is the Curtis Custom Vector for a 6mm or 6.5mm cartridge, most likely 6.5 creedmoor. I see other actions like Impact Precision 737 and ARC (various models) being highly talked about, as well as tons of Defiance footprint models, but I don't know which way to go. I figure there should be some experienced guys on this forum that can give me some useful information. I am also looking at the MPA BA comp chassis, but I don't know if that would sway a decision one way or another? Let me know your experiences or thoughts.
Thanks,
Don
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Donnie do yourself a favor and talk to Travis at TS Customs.
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What he said...
I can finish now. I have 4 master piece arms competition chassis and one has a Lone Peak fuzion action, it is a 6 br. The rifle flat out shoots. I am a big fan of the chassis, they are easy to set up , have a ton of options for PRS style stuff and are well built and thought out in my opinion. I also like the comfort of my shooting hand with the EVG grip. My 2 cents and opinion. Good luck.
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Impact, or lone peak.
The only names you need to know in actions.
You can call TS Customs to get the best rifle built. If you'd like to pay more, and have a more turn-key experience, you can order the rifle through us, and we'll commission TS Customs to build it.
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Both Impact and Lone Peak are available close to me. Also, does anyone have experience with the Area 419 Hellfire action? I'm told it is right up there as well.
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Lone Peak or Impact.
They are both excellent – they are both used by some of the very best shooters out there...if that means anything to you.
I have a LP that has had 3 barrels on it now and is as slick as you could hope for…it’s a fantastic action I wouldn’t trade it for anything out there…period. The only thing I did to mine was trim the ejector spring but that was just because I like to mess with things
They seem to time very well to the trigger techs …. It closes nearly as smooth as my benchrest panda action that is timed for no cock on close.
But like everyone said already talk with Travis.
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Just wondering, with these high end actions, is there usually a break-in period that they will lighten up in? As in bolt lift and the initial closing of the bolt. I guess that would be the firing pin riding the cocking ramp and setting in and out of the groove at the top. Alternately I could see trimming the firing pin spring to lighten them up.
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Do not trip the firing pin spring -- you will run into accuracy issues with a lightened spring. My lone peak has a super nice bolt lift as it is. They will slick up over time but the bolt lift generally stays about the same as new -- in fact lots of bench rest folks replace the springs every few years as one step in ensuring they have consistent energy in the ignition.
My Lone peak has about .242 of pin fall as well.
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@donnie That's where having a smith that knows how to time an action is beneficial.
You can have the best action in the world, but if it's engagement isn't timed properly... you'll feel it.
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Just trying to understand the thought process better when a company designs an action. Out of all the camming surfaces working together to open and close smoothly, and extract a cartridge out of the action, you would think the bolt lugs camming surface and bolt handle to receiver camming surface would be a given set dimension. Out of the bolt lugs, bolt handle and cocking ramp surfaces I'm thinking the only one that would be variable is the cocking ramp so the action could mate with a multitude of triggers without missing the sear. Just a discussion point, I am not trying to be a gun smith lol. So if a smith has to time an action, it involves modifying the cocking ramp surfaces to open/close minimally while still engaging the sear? I'm sure there is more to it but is this the gist of it?
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@tan_90 just out of curiosity, there has to be some amount of cock on close or else the sear wouldn't engage with the trigger. So when you say no cock on close, does it mean basically coming as close to the sear as possible while maintaining reliability? Would that be around .010" past that point or something?
I seen your comment about the .242 pin fall and could tell without even measuring that my action has way more, I believe around .340. This might be something I have addressed when I can feel how much cock on close affects bolt manipulation. My concern is more of heavy bolt lift caused by the firing pin spring and cocking ramp. The primary extraction camming surfaces to bolt lug camming surface look to be timed perfectly and they are not working against each other what so ever. I wonder how I could lighten up that bolt lift without lightening the firing pin spring, any ideas?
