Animal police are even worse than people police.



  • http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/03/liberte-austin/father-and-son-elk-poachers-get-10-day-jail-sentences/

    “This is such a senseless crime,” said Scott Giles, the game warden who led the investigation in Nevada. “These individuals had a valid tag in that area, but because they felt the rules did not apply to them they wound up receiving some pretty steep fines and penalties.”

    In addition to 10 days of jail the Singler men received 270-day suspended sentences, a combined $15,000 in fines and penalties, 40 hours of community service, forfeited a rifle, scope and the elk, and lost hunting privileges for six years in Nevada and 46 other states that recognize a Nevada revocation.

    They call this poaching: Dad draws a tag, lets his son shoot the animal.

    One tag.
    One animal.
    Yet because the dogshit "law" says it's illegal for someone else to fill the tag... they DESTROY these people.

    What a fucking joke. Victimless crime, yet these assholes talk as if they are hero's for destroying these father/son hunters and their guide. Every single cocksucker involved with arresting/prosecuting/convicting these three people should be cast out of society.

    The good news is, this is getting shared and plastered EVERYWHERE. Guess where I'll NEVER go to hunt anything? You guessed it, never going to nevada to hunt ever again.



  • I think they’re probably getting the book because they’re also under investigation in Wisconsin. It seems excessive but I get why the law is written that way.

    “The Singlers are also under investigation in Wisconsin for illegally shooting a trophy whitetail buck out of season early last year during a group coyote hunt near Shiocton.

    An anonymous photo of the buck, wounded but still alive, sparked outrage in the community, as did the headless carcass later found in the woods.”



  • If there were only 3 people present, guide and two clients, how did the DNR know who pulled the trigger?
    Video?
    Social Media Posts?
    Volunteered the information?

    That falls under the Never Talk to the Police policy in my life.

    I can understand not allowing a tag to be traded or sold for a profit like scalping tickets to athletic events.

    Not allowing a Father to pass the opportunity to his Son is BS.

    Well.
    Took a while for the TTAG page to come up.
    Social Media and Text messages and then WI called NV.

    One thing leads to another.

    Still needs to be an exception in the Law for allowing a single family to fill the tag, father, son, cousin, uncle, or Grandfather.
    Can't leave out the ladies either.



  • @hypo said:

    Still needs to be an exception in the Law for allowing a single family to fill the tag, father, son, cousin, uncle, or Grandfather.
    Can't leave out the ladies either.

    Then you’d have entire families applying in one person/one entry tag draws, with the intent of just handing the tag to the primary hunter in the family.

    It’s only fair if the tag holder and shooter are standing next to each other when the shot is taken, and even that presents some issues.



  • In WI we are allowed to "party hunt". I hunt with my father's side of the family. Typically there are about 12 of us. In WI we are not required to draw for tags or anything. As a resident, for $20 you get your hunting license and a buck tag and a doe tag, sometimes 2 depending on your area. In order to carry a gun and actively hunt I must have purchased my license to do so. After I have filled my tag or tags I can still hunt as I have purchased my license. I can fill the tag for anybody in my hunting party. The rules here state that I must be within earshot of the party member who's tag I filled ( I need to be able to yell out to them and they be able to hear me). At the end of the season we debone/ cut-up all the meat together and divide everything between everybody equally in my family.



  • @orkan said:

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/03/liberte-austin/father-and-son-elk-poachers-get-10-day-jail-sentences/

    “This is such a senseless crime,” said Scott Giles, the game warden who led the investigation in Nevada. “These individuals had a valid tag in that area, but because they felt the rules did not apply to them they wound up receiving some pretty steep fines and penalties.”

    In addition to 10 days of jail the Singler men received 270-day suspended sentences, a combined $15,000 in fines and penalties, 40 hours of community service, forfeited a rifle, scope and the elk, and lost hunting privileges for six years in Nevada and 46 other states that recognize a Nevada revocation.

    They call this poaching: Dad draws a tag, lets his son shoot the animal.

    One tag.
    One animal.
    Yet because the dogshit "law" says it's illegal for someone else to fill the tag... they DESTROY these people.

    What a fucking joke. Victimless crime, yet these assholes talk as if they are hero's for destroying these father/son hunters and their guide. Every single cocksucker involved with arresting/prosecuting/convicting these three people should be cast out of society.

    The good news is, this is getting shared and plastered EVERYWHERE. Guess where I'll NEVER go to hunt anything? You guessed it, never going to nevada to hunt ever again.

    Why don't you start a Dumb Hunting law States list like you did anti 2nd amendment list. Thinking about Elk in a few years and knowing what states to stay away from would be a help for those of us with no way to know otherwise.



  • The further west one goes, the more ridiculous the hunting regulations get as greedy politicians exploit desirable game to finance social programs and stuff their own pockets. It's all part of the plan to make us all felons so we can be deprived of our rights and fined into state-dependent poverty. In Colorado this past Fall we were told that if we killed the black bear we had paid to hunt and had been pretty fairly robbed to get a license and tag for already the procedure was to attach the filled out tag permanently to the carcass, get GPS Coordinates of the kill site and send the coordinates to the State Game warden who would then come and inspect the hunter, site and dead bear then when he was satisfied that no Colorado laws had been violated, he'd put another tag on the animal and authorize us to move it to a site where it could be skinned and processed. We were later joined by a Nebraska hunter who had killed a huge and really unbelievably old black bear on the same PRIVATE property the previous year and was getting a free-ish hunt from the guide because the game warden had taken 11 hours to show up to tag his bear then spent another 8 hours deciding whether to cart everyone involved off to jail or tag the carcass because he didn't consider it likely that a second bear could be killed in the same location in a single year. His bear had rotted and the hair slipped before he was allowed to touch his game. But, after the fact just to rub salt into the wounds, the hunter and guide were fined for failure to keep the meat in edible condition, even though the hunter had butchered and iced the decaying meat and hauled it back to Nebraska. According to the guide, New Mexico is even worse. It's a shame because I used to really enjoy hunting on my great uncle's place outside Raton. If I decide to pay for a hunt again you can bet the game laws will be used to rank potential destinations.



  • My story pales in comparison to many, but several years ago Mississippi started offering tags for alligators. You paid your money then waited to see if your were drawn. They were only allowing hunts in two location for one weekend, and we got drawn for the second nights hunt. The alligators had to be in the water and caught with a hook and line or bow fishing rig, wrestled to the boat secured at two separate points before the animal could be killed. There were 125 hunters per hunt each night in a small seaction of the river about 5 miles long as well as just about the same amount of game wardens. The wardens were all running around in loud ass air boats and anytime they saw you trying to get in range of the animals they would blow up on their airboats with all the flashing lights and check your boat, cooler, and license then haul ass off again scaring everything with in 500 yards of you off. At one time we had three wardens pull up and get in line behind each other as soon as one would finish checking us the next one would check us and so on and so forth. Between all the hunters and harassing ass game wardens it made for a miserable hunt. The following year very few people applied for tags. I guess they learned a lesson from that though cause I’ve heard they’ve relaxed the restrictions over the past several years and stopped harassing everyone quite as bad. I never applied for another tag after that first year though due to all the bullshit.



  • @rr2241tx said:

    It's all part of the plan to make us all felons so we can be deprived of our rights and fined into state-dependent poverty.

    That is exactly the truth of it. Yet who among us other than a select few believes this? The average American citizen is in a constant state of denial.


 

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