SD proposal for conceal carry without permit



  • PIERRE, S.D. (AP) – A state Senate panel has endorsed a bill that would allow people who can legally carry a concealed handgun in South Dakota to do so without a permit.
    The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 5-2 Tuesday to advance the bill to the chamber’s floor. It would also have to move through the state House to reach Gov. Dennis Daugaard.
    The Republican governor rejected a similar proposal last year, saying that the state’s permit process is simple and straightforward.
    GOP Sen. Lance Russell, the bill’s sponsor, says the measure has worked in other states.
    It is currently a misdemeanor for someone to carry a concealed pistol or to have one concealed in a vehicle without a permit.
    At the end of December, over 100,000 people in South Dakota had concealed carry permits.

    http://www.gowatertown.net/2018/01/30/south-dakota-senate-committee-passes-permitless-concealed-carry-bill/



  • That projects approximately 11% of the residents having concealed carry permits. I wonder if SD is the highest state in the union?



  • https://www.gunstocarry.com/concealed-carry-statistics/

    Scroll down & you can see a map that shows percentage of population with carry permits.

    There’s only a handful above 10%



  • As it should be.

    Another bill the NRA probably opposes.



  • I'm a 2nd Amendment proponent but there are some people that should not even be in the same room with a firearm. I think we all know people like that. Should they carry? Take dump A$$es even worse than the goobers in the No berm target shooting thread.



  • @martino1

    So who is going to determine those who are qualified to carry and those who should not be allowed to carry a gun? Is that same logic going to trickle down to owning a gun as well? Should these same people not be allowed to own a gun? Do we expect our big government to protect us from every irresponsible person out there who might want to go buy a gun? What about crossbows, knives, and chainsaws for that matter? How many irresponsible people each year are hurt or killed because some irresponsible person used a chainsaw. Granted, there are certain people who should not ever touch a chainsaw...but it is not my place (or the governments place) to tell them that they can't.

    I am a proponent of permit less carry for anyone who can legally own a gun. I am also a strong proponent of holding people responsible for reckless and irresponsible behavior. Therefore someone who acts recklessly with a gun should be held responsible for the damage that gun does. We live in a world that lacks common sense because no one is held responsible for their actions. It is always someone else's fault, the gun's fault, or alcohol's fault. Until people start taking responsibility for their actions they will never exercise the common sense necessary to be safe.

    Will some people get hurt...yes. However I am not willing to sacrifice freedom for safety...EVER!



  • I agree that tougher enforcement is an answer to the problem, the problem I've seen with enforcement in its current state is that it would probably amount to not much more than a slap on the wrist as we've seen for wrongful deaths involving vehicles.

    I don't think a 10 year sentence out in 5 on parole is justice. I'm not saying government is the answer. Counting on our legal system is nuts. Justice in our country is not swift and damn sure is not certain. If you have a ton of money you can buy your own justice. I know some will get hurt. I don't want to sacrifice freedom either. I don't know how many could keep their cool if Berm boys shot one of their loved ones.



  • @martino1 said:

    I'm a 2nd Amendment proponent but

    Why does it seem every single person trying to infringe on peoples rights always start like that?



  • @orkan said:

    @martino1 said:

    I'm a 2nd Amendment proponent but

    Why does it seem every single person trying to infringe on peoples rights always start like that?

    Interesting absolutely no comment on my second post.



  • The second post simply says that the justice system is broken. I wouldn't disagree with that...and it goes right along with what I was saying. 10 years out in 5 is not holding someone responsible for their actions...hence society is in a place where we try to regulate access to "dangerous" actions because we can't hold them responsible after the fact.

    You want to fix problems with responsibility in our country...the start holding people responsible. You really want to get down to the core of the problem and fix things like they should be? Then turn our country, our people, our president, our congress, and our judicial system back to God. That is really the only way.



  • @dddoo7
    No argument here. We let the ACLU take God out of everything.


 

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