Bull81 RRT



  • 25 rounds from the TL3. 223. Shot the bottom 2 then came up .1 Mil. Had two flyers hit on top of each other to the left, both were honest good shots so I’m not sure what that was about. I had some differences in seating pressure I believe is due to some of this brass being sized by a different whidden die that I had to return for not sizing the neck enough. That may have been what caused the flyers.

    Group minus the flyers and .224 for the bullet.

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    Group including the flyers minus .224 for the bullet

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  • I may normal 6.5x47 load is with 140 RDF’s but I had a handful of 140 hybrids from an old lot left over from the first barrel so I decided to play around with them. Wasn’t able to get the same velocity I got when the barrel was new according to my notes but it obviously still likes them just fine. Had one get away from me though and ruined a good run.

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  • Hadn’t posted here in a while just been busy with other things, but I have still been doing a lot of shooting.

    Me and a few friends went to the CORE longrange steel challenge this past weekend in Baker Florida. I carried my new 6br and must say I’ve been extremely impressed with this little round. I’m also extremely happy with my performance at the match. I placed 13th and two of my buddies places 14th and 17th. My brother and the other guy that went with us are new to the sport and were closer to the bottom. We all had a blast though. The COF was the hardest I’ve ever competed in, the RO’s and staff members actually half way apologized for the difficultly of the match. CORE is in the process of moving offices so they brought in a guy to set the stages and COF which turned out a lot tougher than expected. I’m by no means complaining and neither were any other competitors that I saw, it was extremely challenging which made it that much more fun for me. There was definitely no “easy” stages, and every stage was designed to keep you on your toes. To top it all off we had 10-15 mph switching winds adding to the fun.
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  • Went with some friends today and practiced on some barricade and positional shooting. One of them had a little ruger 22 that looked like a cross between a 10/22 and a AR. We had more fun shooting prairie dog poppers at 200 yards with that thing. The scope was a cheap ass Nikon with a useless BDC reticle. Once we got it zeroed in the prairie dogs didn’t stand a chance. I was amazed at how accurate it was at 200 yards. I shot a 10 round group at 200 with it about the size of a 50 cent piece. It did have a couple flyers but given the trigger was set at an extra rough/gritty need 2 fingers and a come-a-long to pull it weight I wasn’t surprised.

    It’s got me wanting a good bolt action 22 now.



  • First relays results from Saturday’s 1000 yard match. I took a screenshot the website hasn’t updated yet with the details and other two relays. This was my 6 BR and the H4350 load shot off a bipod and squeeze bag. You’ll have to excuse the sighter rounds A, B, and C the rifle wasn’t zeroed for this particular load

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  • Just found out that the 1000 group pictured above was the smallest group of the day by a significant margin next smallest was 11 something. Also found out it is the second smallest group ever shot at 1000 yards at this range. The smallest measured 6.6 and mine measured 6.9. The smallest one was shot from a 6.5x284 full blown Fopen rig and a front rest. Not to bad for a tactical rifle fired from a bipod and rear bag.



  • Not really my range report but my daughters. Me and Ava went out to shoot this morning and she wanted to shoot prairie dog poppers. Here she is tearing up the 200 yard dog. Scope didn’t have enough travel so she had to do hold overs at 26 MOA from a 25 yard zero

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  • I see a Labradar sitting there. Do you have enough time with it to have an opinion you care to share?



  • @flyinphill
    I’ve had it for a little over a year. I had the magnetospeed before and ran them both together for a little while. I sold the magnetospeed and like the Labradar much better. I’ve not had any trouble out of mine, I’ve shot everything from suppressed 22’s to braked 300 win mags across it with no issue. It does take a slight learning curve to learn where to place it next to the rifle. Also if shooting suppressed the external mic is a must. It will work without the mic but is very sensitive to placement. Main reason I prefer it over the magnetospeed is I do a hybrid version of load development and shoot across a chronograph at the same time I do an OCW test.



  • @bull81 Cool. I am going to have to buy a speedometer for my bullets of some sort in the next while. Just trying to weigh options. I like the concept of the Labradar for the very same reason as you. I have limited opportunities to shoot, so being able to perform speed and OCWs at the same time would be a big plus. But it has to actually perform up to its claims or it is meaningless.



  • I'll probably have to get one with the external mic and new app to try out. I was very unimpressed with the first batch they sold.



  • @orkan I would certainly be interested to see an updated review by you. I remember (I think on a different forum) where you expressed your lack of positive results when they first came out. Since then, I see a handful of people that had very negative experiences, and the significant majority with experiences like bull81. Not a lot of in between. It was a new product 2 years ago, so maybe the problems have been ironed out now.

    And I am also curious about the external mic. Doing a search on their website I don't see anything listed as a "microphone", but they do have the "air gun trigger adapter", which appears to be a microphone. Is that what you are referring to?

    BTW: Didn't really mean to hijack somebodies RRT with this. We can move this discussion elsewhere if needed.



  • @flyinphill
    Yes the air gun trigger is what I’m referring too as the external mic. The long awaited newly released app is really nice. You can now completely control the unit without having to get up and move. It’s the first version of the app so it does have a few little quirks that they will need to work out in future updates but nothing serious



  • friend of mine cleared out a spot at his place that stretches out to 1355 yards. We went out there today with with steel from 450 to 1355. Had to shoot modified prone off the cab of the truck. Was able to score 3 hits on a full size ipsa at 1355 with my 223 after walking it out target to target. It amazes me how capable a 223 with heavy bullets can be.



  • Shot my new 6.5x47 barrel today at the 1000 yard match. Cleaned the rifle this morning and was amazed when the first round from a cold clean bore landed in the 10 ring followed by the next 4 sighters, zero shift in POI.
    Wind picked up on me while I was switching from sighters to score rounds and bombed the first to rounds in relay 1. Still managed to walk off with a solid win for the day.

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  • Put the 6br barrel back on for a match this weekend and confirmed zero. 5 rounds had one try to sneak out the left side on me. Dots are about 3/16th in size

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  • Shot a 600 yard Fclass match today with my 6br. 7-10 mph winds that were consistently inconsistent lol.

    Relay one 195 5x

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    Relay two 198 10x

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    Relay three 198 11x

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    Also let a friend of mines wife shoot the 223 that @tscustoms built. It was her first match to shoot in but she still did very well. When she would get the wind figured out it would stack bullets on top of each other every time.



  • @bull81 said in Bull81 RRT:

    friend of mine cleared out a spot at his place that stretches out to 1355 yards. We went out there today with with steel from 450 to 1355. Had to shoot modified prone off the cab of the truck. Was able to score 3 hits on a full size ipsa at 1355 with my 223 after walking it out target to target. It amazes me how capable a 223 with heavy bullets can be.

    How far out does that .223 heavy bullet load stay supersonic?



  • @martino1 according to my kestrel the 80 gr VLD’s go subsonic at around 1075 yards. The 80 gr ELD’s go subsonic at 1130 yards. When I shoot this rifle much over 1000 yards I use the 80 gr ELD’s. The ELD’s seem to handle the transition much better. I’ve shot the ELD’s out to 1355 yards accurately.



  • @bull81 said in Bull81 RRT:

    @martino1 according to my kestrel the 80 gr VLD’s go subsonic at around 1075 yards. The 80 gr ELD’s go subsonic at 1130 yards. When I shoot this rifle much over 1000 yards I use the 80 gr ELD’s. The ELD’s seem to handle the transition much better. I’ve shot the ELD’s out to 1355 yards accurately.

    Have you had similar experience with other calibers shooting ELD's and good subsonic transition? I've been shooting SMK's in my 308 because I had little reason to look at other calibers because I thought that the accuracy of a bullet remained in the subsonic range of the round.



  • @martino1
    I’ve not used enough of them in other calibers to really say one way or another. I have used them in a few .308’s and two 6.5 creedmoors and they preformed very well but never shot them at out to the transonic and subsonic ranges.



  • Shot at K&M this weekend, big disappointment. I shot worse than I ever have before and place 59th out of 97. Completely bombed one of the easiest stages of the day. Had two plate racks one at 691 and the other at 745. They were both KYL racks and were shot in sequence first target on each rack then second target and so on. They were both pretty much inline with each other so there was very little shift in your position. The entire stage was prone. I dropped 9 out of 10 points on that stage and one of the guys with me dropped all 10. I never got rattled or rushed and made honest calls but only connected with 1 shot, next to smallest target on the rack of all things. That was the second stage of the day and I felt like something was wrong equipment wise but the very next stage had targets out to 1200 yards and I cleaned that stage with ease which ruled out any equipment issue. After the match I saw where a fair amount of competitors had issues at that stage. For the life of me I can’t figure out what I did wrong, but it was no doubt something in the conditions I didn’t see. Either way between that stage and a few other boneheaded mistakes I made, I can definitely chalk yesterday day up as my worst performance to date. In the end though we all had a blast and are looking forward to going back early December.



  • Everyone has bad days, or even weeks or periods of time where they are unable to perform to their own expectations.

    This usually follows a period of interrupted training and improper mindset. Many things can influence our positive flow of expanded experience and mind stimulation. Health issues, relationship problems, and work stress, to name a few. Poor performance doesn't just show up from nothing. There are most often several causes for its presence. This is where true growth as a shooter can occur, or where you can plateau out hard and stall your shooting career. Mindset is everything.

    Look to improve everything. Remove excuses from all equipment and processes. Adhere to a training schedule that includes meditation, dry fire, live fire, and positional training.

    A more systematic approach to your shooting will allow the experiences you generate to result in competence. That competence will produce confidence. A real and sustainable calm confidence that can endure the multitude of situations a shooter can find themselves in.



  • @orkan

    Very well said fella. Couldn’t agree more with you. I’m good health wise and don’t have anything stressing me anymore than normal, not sure what happened but I definitely wasn’t on my game Saturday that’s for sure. I can’t blame it on equipment either just the driver.



  • Working up a load for my 6.5x47 with the 140 JLK’s. Think it’s likes them. Not but 3 rounds during the seating depth test but .031 is pretty impressive.

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