False Police Report Results in Mans Death
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http://www.newsweek.com/call-duty-swatting-prank-police-kill-man-gamers-say-765329
CALL OF DUTY’ SWATTING PRANK LED POLICE TO SHOOT AND KILL A MAN
The Call of Duty gaming community is blaming a so-called swatting prank on the death of a man shot by Kansas police Thursday night.
The online gamers allege that two Call of Duty players were fighting online when one decided to report a fake hostage and homicide situation to police with a false address. Wichita police arrived at the address and shot a man, Andrew Finch, as he was leaving the house.
This is what happens when police act like children in every single situation. All it takes is for someone to make an accusation, and the police go into full retard escalation mode. Show up at a guy's house and shoot him, based on an anonymous phone call.
The very definition of tyrannical stupidity.
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This doesn’t surprise me. Like you have said stuff like this happens every day to innocent people.
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Perfect example of why I no longer can even shoot my air gun out the window.
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Man found with small arsenal on Houston Hyatt Regency's top floor before New Year's Eve celebration, police say
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/31/man-found-with-small-arsenal-on-houston-hyatt-regencys-top-floor-before-new-years-eve-celebration-police-say.htmlThis is another one that looks awful fishy. They say that he had a “small arsenal” in his room which amounted to an ar15, shotgun, and handgun. Nothing of which was noted as being illegal and all of which could be easily explained by a 3 gun event.
He was charged with and arrested for “unlawfully carrying a weapon” and “trespassing”. He was drinking (and shouldn’t have been) and they initially were going to arrest him for public intoxication and trespassing. That could have amounted to him being drunk, asked to leave, and didn’t. “Unlawfully carrying a weapon” could have been as simple as carrying a weapon while intoxicated or carrying a weapon while “trespassing”.
Notice: no resisting arrest charges, no illegal weapons charges, no murder or mass shootings. They don’t even know why he had the weapons. So it really looks like a simple drunk and disorderly that the cops trumped up to look like they took down the next mass murderer. Either that...or they haven’t released all the details.
By the way: I am not excusing his being drunk or his actions while drunk. Simply saying that if drunken and disorderly is all he did, then that is all he should be punished for.
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Having a gun, or being larger than 5'6" is enough to be immediately classified as a criminal threat in this country.
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@orkan said:
http://www.newsweek.com/call-duty-swatting-prank-police-kill-man-gamers-say-765329
CALL OF DUTY’ SWATTING PRANK LED POLICE TO SHOOT AND KILL A MAN
The Call of Duty gaming community is blaming a so-called swatting prank on the death of a man shot by Kansas police Thursday night.
The online gamers allege that two Call of Duty players were fighting online when one decided to report a fake hostage and homicide situation to police with a false address. Wichita police arrived at the address and shot a man, Andrew Finch, as he was leaving the house.
This is what happens when police act like children in every single situation. All it takes is for someone to make an accusation, and the police go into full retard escalation mode. Show up at a guy's house and shoot him, based on an anonymous phone call.
The very definition of tyrannical stupidity.
I read one of the comments that made perfect sense, doesn't the 911 dispatch have caller ID to know that the call is coming from another state? and sense when do they respond with full SWAT to a 911 call? Beat Cops respond first then they call for back up if they can't control the situation or at least I thought so anyhow.
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That Prank caller deserves to be the guest of honor at an A$$ wooping party...... within an inch of his life... Then thrown in jail. That said, my experience has been that most cops are very professional. We do hear a lot about a select few screw-ups.
In some southern states that will remain nameless, there are some places where cops do act like the Boss Hogg and Enise on the Dukes of Hazard.
This is the first time I've heard about this major a screw-up by SWAT though.
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Our police force in general has gotten to the point that any accusations are assumed true unless the accused can prove themselves innocent. I used to feel that police were generally good and honest until recently. I have seen too many Innocent people be drug through the ringer because someone made a false accusation. Police are trained to do anything To get people to admit guilt and they will lie, deceive, and threaten innocent people to get them to admit to wrong doing whether they have done it or not. The reality is that simple individual accusations should not be sufficient to bring charges or to warrant an arrest...yet I have seen simple accusations called in by phone be enough to set up road blocks, cuff individuals, threaten them, arrest them, charge them with crimes they didn’t do, and cost them thousands in legal fees simply to clear their name. Whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty? Any good and honest DA would immediately throw out cases without sufficient evidence, yet instead they chase a case that has no evidence in order to get a win.
Why do you think so many are allowed to “plea out”? When the DA offers a plea they are essentially saying that they don’t have enough evidence to get a conviction...so they will offer a plea so that they can still get a win. They will threaten with prison time in order to get otherwise innocent people to take a plea when in reality there is no evidence.
I greatly respect good police. However I have come to realize the reality that there are very few truly good and honest police. A truly good and honest police will have to go against their own training to remain good and honest.
The prankers in this situation deserve to be prosecuted. However one would come to expect such pranks from low life teens who have been raised without morals. The issue I have in this situation is the police who take the word of a random phoned in prank as truth and shoot an unarmed man because of it.
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@martino1 said:
This is the first time I've heard about this major a screw-up by SWAT though.
They have been ruining peoples lives like this roughly 400 times a year, across the country, EVERY YEAR. This is just the first time they just showed up and killed the guy.
That's more than once a day. More than once a day someone anonymously calls the police and a swat team shows up at some random person's house. "Swatting." Hence the term.
The cops being anonymously or fraudulently called, and having the cops show up to ruin your life happens DOZENS of times per day across the country. Call the cops from a burner phone, tell a lie, watch them go destroy someone's life. This isn't new. This isn't rare. This is going to continue to happen unless police power is put in check.
If you think that only the bad guys are the ones law enforcement is targeting, you're crazy. In the last year, me personally, 2 people I know directly, and over 15 acquaintances of mine have been wrongfully arrested by police and wrongfully prosecuted by crooked prosecutors.
Do you know what happens to the liars filing false police reports?
Nothing.
Do you know what happens to the police not doing their job and making arrests on zero facts?
Nothing.
Do you know what happens to the prosecutors pushing bullshit cases based on total fabrication?
Nothing.
If I didn't have a full HD security system with HD audio blanketing my entire property I'd be in PRISON right now due to 3 lying 17 year old punks and one of their criminally insane mothers. It's EASY to play the "most cops are good" routine when you haven't been innocent and had them try to destroy your life anyway.
If there are so many good cops, why aren't they actively destroying ALL of the bad cops?
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@orkan said:
If there are so many good cops, why aren't they actively destroying ALL of the bad cops?
The good cops don't last in a corrupt atmosphere, they usually move on so as not to get either sandbagged or dead.
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@orkan yup, it’s one reason why I think it would be best to have a and audio camera on yourself at all times.
Of course in some states that’s not legal either.
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@dddoo7
As of noon today that guy is still locked up in Houston with a $100,000.00 bond. His lawyer was trying to get it down to $10,000.00 but I didn't see the results on the noon news on Channel 11. Something about he kicked an officer in the leg or foot so the charges were upped. There was supposedly a gun show in that area but his lawyer said he brought his guns in the room because he was afraid they would be stolen. Trust me, they will steal you blind in Houston, don't matter if it's guns or if you leave your false teeth out where they can be seen. Last night a goblin stole a car with a baby in it and set the baby out behind some apartments in the area. Lucky a cop found it. I think I heard correct they had fifty squad cars looking within a matter of minutes. Momma should have known better to leave the car running and unlocked just to dart in the Valero station. Helluva place to live.
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Was that suppose to go in a different thread? This one is about a video gamer being shot to death by police due to an anonymous baseless phone call.
The one you're talking about is where they bust a guy for having firearms in his hotel room right?
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@orkan
I looked for another thread and the only reference to the Houston incident I could find was in this one with the link provided by dddoo7. I guess this is the only thread it was discussed in. You are correct, it has no relevance to the "swatting" prank.
edit: Just an update on the Houston incident sorry to confuse.
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Thanks for the update! Might not have been another thread... could very well have been this thread! :)
Shitty cops and shitty laws doing shitty things to innocent people. Very relevant indeed.
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Interesting update. I wonder if the “assault” was trumped up as well.
I should have started another thread. I just thought that both stories were a drastic misuse of police authority.
