stripping the rights of the innocent to protect the oppressors
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School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural"
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/22/school-orders-boy-to-tolerate-undressing-with-girl-and-make-it-natural.html
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Not surprising but very sickening. One more reason to make the sacrifices to homeschool your children!
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@gash
Absolutely. Add this to the long list of reasons I don't trust the government to teach my kids.
The thing is...we shouldn't have to home school. School used to be a place where morals were taught...not torn down.
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I really can't believe the sheer insanity masquerading as normality in this country today.
It is rather depressing when you realize that in a not so distant future an extreme confrontation is inevitable.
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Let us not forget that it is only a vocal minority that view any of this as how it should be. Yet that vocal minority is SO loud and causes SO much trouble for those that don't conform that the organizations have little choice about it. If they don't adhere to the politically correct tolerance agenda, they are called racists, bigots, and nazi's or worse. Their personal lives are destroyed. Their privacy invaded. Their worlds attacked from all angles mercilessly.
Make no mistake about it. There are forces perpetuating this stuff in our country on a grand scale, intentionally, and with a specific purpose to destabilize any control that the moral majority has. This is how evil spreads. This is how those that serve evil operate.
They have set the narrative that no matter how unreasonable they are, you are to do NOTHING other than sit down and talk with them. While you sit and talk, attempting to reason with the unreasonable, their allies laugh as they burn everything around you to the ground. After you're done talking, and walk outside to see your concerns laid to ruin, it is too late.
The problem is that people are so petty and so wrapped up in their worthless jobs that they can't tell friend from foe, good from evil, any longer. They want conclusive proof before they take action against evil. They want to talk, and talk some more, and then they have the gall to think they can use the system CREATED and PERPETUATED by evil, against the evil.
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Isn't that exactly the same as Rome just a few generations before it fell?
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I'm not entirely sure on that, as I haven't researched rome heavily, but virtually all regimes or civilizations experience a complete lack of morality before they are destroyed. Either from within or from outside forces.
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@orkan said:
I'm not entirely sure on that, as I haven't researched rome heavily, but virtually all regimes or civilizations experience a complete lack of morality before they are destroyed. Either from within or from outside forces.
This is very accurate and correct. For some reason, during high school and through most of college, I hated history. But when I had to chose and elective to graduate a friend suggested I take a Military history class that was being offered that semester, after that, I loved history. After that I read history as my time allows, and one common fact that has been observed by historians, is that as the morals go in a country/empire/civilization, so does the country. Almost all country/empire downfalls are preceded by a decay in morals.
I was having a conversation with some friends and my thinking is that if liberals continue to push for all this evil crap like gender identity and LGBT rights, etc., we will get to a point where the only way to get back to the values our country was founded on would be through a revolution or civil war with many lives lost. I truly hope I don't get to see it or my kids, but if liberals are allowed to run wild with their evil agenda, at some point in the future only through the spilling of blood will we be able to correct course.
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@gash said:
Not surprising but very sickening. One more reason to make the sacrifices to homeschool your children!
Completely agree. We homeschooled our kids for 2.5 years but unfortunately had to stop. My job schedule changed and my wife started having thyroid problems where she was almost bed ridden for 3 out of the 4 weeks of the month. She was working with the 2 youngest and I was working with the 2 oldest, but when she got sick, I had to pick up the slack and my work started to suffer. We were in South TX at the time, our house in TX is 3 blocks away from the border with Mexico. Unfortunately since it's a border town, almost 100% of the people speak Spanish, or more accurately, Spanglish. We decided to make a change when we found out my daughters "advanced English" teacher was speaking Spanish to the kids other than for the lesson material.
We found a great school in Colorado, it's a charter school, that was founded by a bunch of military families that wanted to homeschool. 2 years ago it was the top school in the state and our kids got accepted to it. We really like it because they teach the socratic method, and although there are a few liberal teachers, they stay away from presenting their material with a bias. The school focuses on morality, virtues, and conservative values. Every week there is a virtue/value that is taught, so there are posters, quotes, banners trough the school, and they get assignments that target that particular value. Then on Fridays, they get a presentation by the principal on that particular value/virtue. They do this every week.
So even though we love homeschooling, we felt that based on our situation, we just couldn't continue without hurting the kids in the long run, but I am glad we found a school that is very challenging and promotes conservative values, so we moved from South TX to Colorado so our kids could attend this school. The only thing we don't like is the amount of homework the kids get, but the results are just phenomenal. It was a night and day contrast when my daughter came with a story about her math teacher who is also a tutor. The teacher made the comment in class that he is tutoring this girl from a public school that uses the same book our school does, but our school was 27 lessons ahead than the public school.
But if we could, we would totally do home schooling again.
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Y'all are probably gonna get tired of these...but the truth rings clear 1,000's of years later.
Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people."
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@ramirojpc said:
But if we could, we would totally do home schooling again.
I have a philosophical problem with statements such as this. I see it and other things like it said time and time again by various people, but today I'm going to pick on you @ramirojpc. ;)
As a free man, I can do anything I want. So can you. If you could? You can. It's a choice, a decision you are making that you won't. I hear it all the time, and I believe it to be a core problem with society as a whole. "I wish I could..." "If only I could..." "If it weren't for ____ I would ____." I don't have a problem with people making whatever choice they feel is right (within reason) but the attempted justification of those choices by insinuating that they have no control over them is where my tolerance ends.
If you wanted to home school your kids... you would. You simply don't want to... not bad enough to make it happen, anyway. So why tell otherwise? That is an ultimate truth which requires no explanation or clarification. You could set things in motion to alter your life in such a way to make the thing you want to happen, happen, if you chose to.
It is my belief that the "modern" way of life and the expectations of the socially acceptable norms have so firmly infected family structure that most people can not even allow them the possibility of true happiness. Several generations built upon lies and deceit have caused this. A society so concerned with the thoughts of others that they just go on autopilot to fit in. Get a loan for the house, or two. Get a loan for the vehicle, or 3 or 4. Get a loan for the camper, the boat, the ATV's, the jet ski's, and the motorcycles. Have the kids get loans for "school." Work their asses off every single day, and have NOTHING to show for it but all kinds of shit they don't even own.
I don't know your situation, and the cold hard truth is that I don't have to. This is a philosophical detachment people have from reality that defers responsibility and starves them of their own power. Choices. Free will. Systems of control run by evil people aim to rob us of this, and statements like you made are exactly what allows them to do it. Every day I try to remind myself of this, and every day I make choices that bring me closer to my goals. Yet achievement of my goals isn't the thing that makes me happy. WORKING on achieving them each day, is what makes me happy. Fulfillment of self. Society has fooled people into thinking they can only be happy if they have a certain house, a certain vehicle, a certain amount of money... and it's all bullshit. It's bullshit specifically designed to enslave men.
So don't tell us that you would if you could. You can. Chances are you'd be happier and your family would be safer. Though if your job, money, or other things are more important than you and your families happiness, then so be it. Or maybe you don't really want it to be different than it is, and you're all happy how it is now. Either way, it's your choice. Therefore, you can not disown it.
The truth stands on its own regardless. :)
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@orkan To a certain degree you are right. Maybe a bit more background will shed light. I'll leave the work issues aside for now because although those impacted my ability to do home schooling, they came as a result of my wife's illness. I am sure you know that the endocrine system (thyroid) is a master hormone that when it's out of whack it affects many other systems in the body. The reason we decided to stop homeschooling was because my wife's days of being well enough to work with the kids were may 1 or 2 a week. That hasn't really changed, although we have been trying with different doctors, specialists, heck, we have even tried acupuncture by a Korean guy that came highly recommended - nothing seems to work. We've been to doctors and endocrine specialists in IL, TX, and now CO, and her condition will improve sporadically or not at all. So we feel that without having some structure, at least where the kids cover some material every day, we would be hurting them instead of helping them.
Today it's more difficult because the 2 oldest ones are juniors in high school and will be seniors next year. I could probably handle the history and the Spanish classes, but I definitely can't handle Statistics for my daughter, Calculus for my son, AP English, AP Chemistry, Latin, etc.
Overall, you are correct, it is a choice. I guess we could re-arrange our lives in a way that would allow us to home school, although the situation with my wife's thyroid condition, among other health issues, would be more difficult to deal with. For people like my wife and I, the way we are and how important the kids' education is, we felt that based on our situation, our kids would be better served by the charter school they attend today than by us home schooling. I do understand that a public school, even one as great as ours, will never be as good at teaching kids virtues and values as us parents, but at least in our school's case, they are definitely better at teaching the academics than we are. As far s the values and virtues, my wife and I see it as our responsibility to teach those to our kids. Although this school teaches values and virtues that line up with ours, we have not relegated that responsibility to the school. This is why our dinners at home take about 2 hours, not because we eat that much, but because my wife and I have made it a point that dinner is the family time that gets sacrificed for nothing or no one. That is the time when we talk to our kids about what is going on in their lives, where we hear what they are going through, and where we teach them our values and the virtues of what it is to be a good person, a good faithful Catholic, and good and faithful American, and to strive to be better than us as persons of good.
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@ramirojpc said:
Overall, you are correct, it is a choice. I guess we could re-arrange our lives in a way that would allow us to home school, although the situation with my wife's thyroid condition, among other health issues, would be more difficult to deal with. For people like my wife and I, the way we are and how important the kids' education is, we felt that based on our situation, our kids would be better served by the charter school they attend today than by us home schooling.
As I said, this has nothing to do with your situation. Absolutely nothing to do with it at all. Your situation is a result of your choices... not the other way around. It's a behavioral, philosophical, and intellectual problem I'm talking about here. The background on your situation does not matter. The trials and tribulations of my life, or your life, does not matter. The reasons or justifications for our choices does not matter.
YOU are in control of what you do here, the choices you make, and thus you are the only one responsible for them. This is a fact. All of humanity is at peril if that simple fact can not be acknowledged. It's not "kind of" true. It's not "true in some circumstances." It is not open to interpretation. It is ALWAYS true. If we are unwilling to endure the consequences of a choice, then a modification of the choice is required. If we ARE willing to endure it, then we do not get to say "If I could only" as if we somehow have nothing to do with the situations we find ourselves in.
It is this quintessential truth that is rarely acknowledged these days. Money, and the acquisition of wealth has been exalted above all else. Happiness and integrity, those things are lost in a never ending stream of peoples justifications, reasons, and refusal to take responsibility for their actions.
Make your choices how you will. ... but I'll not remain silent here when someone proclaims "if only I could, I would," as if they have no control over their lives. None of you should remain silent either. This is a core fundamental to being a responsible human being and is hugely important to understand if anyone wants to be happy.
@dddoo7 said:
Y'all are probably gonna get tired of these...but the truth rings clear 1,000's of years later.
None of us here get tired of it. Those that would can find life on another website. The more signs, markers, and reminders along the path, helps you stay on it. This may just be one big echo chamber, but at the very least it has the effect of helping us all make the correct choices each day.
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@orkan said:
It is this quintessential truth that is rarely acknowledged these days. Money, and the acquisition of wealth has been exalted above all else. Happiness and integrity, those things are lost in a never ending stream of peoples justifications, reasons, and refusal to take responsibility for their actions.
You know, last night we were just talking about this with our oldest son. Unlike my daughter that has her majors selected, her college selected, etc., my son doesn't know what he wants to pursue as a career or where he wants to go. The central points of our conversation last night during dinner were essentially what you write above: 1) pick a career not for the money that you can make, but by how happy you can be doing something you love, you don't have to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer, you can be carpenter, mechanic, or welder, but whatever you chose as a career, make sure you love doing it so you can be the best at it. Making a ton of money will not make you happy if you hate what you do, and 2) In everything you do, be honest, respect yourself and others, be truthful, give your best, and hopefully strive to do better than us (mom & dad).
I still remember my dad's lesson when I was in high school. My dad, had no education, he was tending sheep and goats since he was 8 years old up in the mountains in Mexico. So one time he got me a summer job at the ranch where he worked building a fence around this 1200 acre ranch in TX. So after a few weeks to chopping down mesquite trees with an ax in South Texas in the summer where it's like 157 degrees and 150% humidity, we are sitting down to eat around noon and he asks me, "so do you like doing this?" I said, "heck yeah, helps me to exercise, keeps me fit for when I start sports at school.", he said, "no, I mean do you like this kind of work for a living, to provide for your family?" "heck no, I don't want to work in the sun day in and day out." Then he says, "I was raised to think that tending sheep and goats was all there was, my father cared more to send us to the mountains to tend the goats than to send us to school, you can change that. Do good in school, get a career, be better than me." I think I was a freshman or sophomore in high school when he gave me that lesson, and I never forgot it. To this day, my father can only right his name, and that is because my mom taught him, but his life lessons were very profound. I have tried to impart those same lessons to my kids. Those are the kinds of values and virtues that never age and get old, no matter how much time passes and how money people make or how much people achieve. So I completely agree with you on this.
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@ramirojpc said:
So I completely agree with you on this.
I figured as much. You should take care how you speak (write), lest someone perceive differently. We all should. ;)
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@orkan said:
I figured as much. You should take care how you speak (write), lest someone perceive differently. We all should. ;)
But if I could, I would speak/write.....:laughing: :laughing: