Picked up my First DT today.
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This is a 22 creedmoor with custom barrel work done by Travis at TS Customs.
Thank You Greg for all the help. Hopefully I can break it in this weekend.
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Very nice!!!
Factory weight 26" TS customs barrel?
I recommend going through Orkan' instructions on adjusting the trigger before you get started.
New TT too?
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So nice!! Enjoy! :smile:
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Looks beautiful. Enjoy!
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Awesome kit! You'll enjoy it all.
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Show off that Target.
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Excellent setup for sure. Now lets see some groups better than my .22 Creed. ;)
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@orkan Did some loading last night. Started at 40gr of H4350 and went up in .5 increments to 43. Hopefully I make it to the range this weekend. Will keep you posted. Hopefully the class will get me on my way to the groups of your 22 Creed!! The gun is a beauty...The barrel work by Travis at TS customs is spectacular, the thread protector, fit and finish, etc... Thank You
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Looks like you're in south east PA. What range you going to?
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@a_marks Penn Dutch Sportsman Club in New Holland PA. Longest Range goes to 400.
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Here is first load development with the 22 creed. It was very windy today 7-24 and swirling. Let me know where you think potential is Greg. It did take some adjusting to get rifle set up to me but once I did very comfortable.
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Tough to tell with the size of those groups. Something is not right there. Either the brass/sizing process or concentricity problem or simply a barrel that doesn't like those bullets. Did you get enough rounds through it before you tried load dev? I wouldn't do serious development until you get about 50rnds or more through it. Overbore cartridges like that can be really cranky when they are going through puberty. If you need to get some rounds through it, load them up at 42 and get a firing on the brass. That should straighten out any neck problems you had during necking down. Do load dev on once fired.
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@orkan those are the first rounds through the gun 25. I will load another 25 in the 42 to 42.5 and just break the barrel in. I will take 3 of these cases and send to whidden for a sizing die. Some could have been wind and me adjusting rifle as I went. Will clean barrel and prep for next weekend.
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@orkan said:
Tough to tell with the size of those groups. Something is not right there. Either the brass/sizing process or concentricity problem or simply a barrel that doesn't like those bullets. Did you get enough rounds through it before you tried load dev? I wouldn't do serious development until you get about 50rnds or more through it. Overbore cartridges like that can be really cranky when they are going through puberty. If you need to get some rounds through it, load them up at 42 and get a firing on the brass. That should straighten out any neck problems you had during necking down. Do load dev on once fired.
On the topic of using once fired brass to do load development. Should it be once fired in the chamber/barrel that your doing the development for? I have some once fired brass from my factory 700 barrel and will be having a new barrel put on soon.
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Should be once fired in the chamber you will be using. Once fired in a Remington chamber will probably be worse off than virgin brass.
I would start with fresh brass on the fresh barrel.
Orkan can confirm...or might disagree.
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I was thinking along those lines but wanted to confirm it. I also have 100 pieces of virgin Lapua brass that I'm saving too. So maybe I'll run those through.
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I made a mistake and am going to have to deal with it. I want about 200-250 pieces of brass in regular rotation. I currently have 100 that I just bought. I should have bought all I wanted at one time so that I didn't have to keep lots separate. If I were you (and Orkan recommended this to me) I would buy enough brass and bullets to wear out the barrel so that they all come from the same lot. I didn't want to spend the money at the time and now I am dealing with it.
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Well I did buy enough brass to have 200 pieces on the same rotation. I just have 100 pieces that I haven't loaded and shot yet. I was trying to avoid wasting ammo in my 700 until after the rebarrel. Maybe I'll just shoot those 100 to get all 200 pieces on the same rotation.
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@dddoo7 said:
Should be once fired in the chamber you will be using. Once fired in a Remington chamber will probably be worse off than virgin brass.
I would start with fresh brass on the fresh barrel.
Orkan can confirm...or might disagree.
FL size it when going between rifles. Better to be too small than to not fit. Usually it shoots just fine... probably better than virgin.
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I put another 25 shots of virgin brass through the gun today. My FL die is on order with Whidden. My Plan is to clean the 47 pieces I have shot and load up from 42 - 43 and see how it does with once fired brass. I am getting more comfortable with the DT.
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Shot today. it was in the low 20's and breezy. Bright sunshine with a lot of mirage. I think I have to do a better job necking down the brass. I may need to invest in some neck turning equipment.
I do like the 3 in pretty much same hole with 43.2 gr H4350. I just need to figure out what is causing the flyers. I think it could be the necks but it could be me. This gun is going to be a fun shooter.
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@tpk936 That some fine shooting, are you shooting prone? I don't know how you guys can lay down and shoot in the winter LOL.
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I just have a hard time laying down.
Good shooting.
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@tpk936 said:
Shot today. it was in the low 20's and breezy. Bright sunshine with a lot of mirage. I think I have to do a better job necking down the brass. I may need to invest in some neck turning equipment.
I do like the 3 in pretty much same hole with 43.2 gr H4350. I just need to figure out what is causing the flyers. I think it could be the necks but it could be me. This gun is going to be a fun shooter.If its a neck problem, you'll typically be able to feel it when seating bullets or easily measure the runout on a concentricity gauge. Make sure you try some once fired brass too... rather than just virgin. Sometimes the first firing is just useless. Rare, but I've seen it.
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@orkan I will have to purchase a concentricity gauge. They just feel very snug going into chamber.
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Could be that you'll NEED to turn. Measure a loaded round neck diameter, then measure a fired case. If the necks are getting too out of shape during sizing, might have to turn em in order to get some clearance.
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Shot my new DT this weekend in 7WSM and "WOW!" 1/2" groups after 4 rounds to sight in the scope. This will quickly become my favorite firearm and I can't wait to take it to distance this next weekend.
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Excellent. :)
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This showed up today, Talk about fast. So I assembled and then rolled brass on necks and then ogive. I can now see why some where same hole and others way off. I separated out the 18 I have loaded in groups of decent and terrible. I am interested to see how this pans out at range. After this exercise and measuring the necks of fired and loaded brass I am going to wait for neck turn equipment and sizer die from whidden. Thanks for the assistance Greg. Once I get this brass process done correctly this 22 creed will be a laser.
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That sure is a very nice concentricity gauge.
I would think .0000 is sought, however what is a realistic cut off point, .0015 or less?
