Proof of the NRA's real mission.



  • http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/02/robert-farago/question-day-nra-veep-lapierre-earned-5m-2015-ok/

    5 million dollars, to a single person, in one year.

    According to the tax filing, the NRA recorded a bump in total revenue in 2015 but a dip in contributions. The NRA brought in more than $336 million in total gross revenue in 2015, an increase of about $26 million from the year before. According to the filing, contributions to the NRA dropped to just under $95 million in 2015, down from $103 million in 2014.

    So Mr. LaPierre’s 2015 compensation represents around 1.5 percent of the NRA’s 2015 gross revenue.

    Making money. That's the NRA's goal. If they "win" our fight, they won't get anymore.

    You have, or need, a hole in your head if you think they really want to get to that point.



  • Yup I've been weary of them for awhile.

    Plus the non stop calls for more donations drives me mad.

    Is the GOA any better?



  • I've heard GOA and JPFO are considerably better in that they don't play the compromise game as much as the NRA... however I can't vouch for any of them.



  • I understand that they are making money on scare tactics...and I don't agree with them doing that. However I also know that they are a big part of influencing gun legislation most of which I agree with. If the liberals are angry at the NRA...then they must be making a difference in the right direction...even if it is not as far as it should be at times.



  • I am a life member of the NRA and GOA. Both have their positives and negatives.
    The NRA is a formidable political power due to numbers of members. I don't agree always with their strategies. I do believe we would be on the verge of shooting water guns without the NRA.
    If there was only 1 organization supporting the 2nd amendment that I could belong to, it would be the GOA, due to their staunch uncompromising stance. I wish they had the number of membership that the NRA had.
    Over the years I have contributed to other organizations such as JPFO, 2nd Amendment Foundation and various state and local organizations.
    As to Mr. LaPierre’s compensation representing about 1.5 percent of the NRA’s 2015 gross revenue, it does seem extravagant. It does however make me wonder if his compensation is performance orientated, dependent upon gross earnings.
    EDIT: looked into his compensation..his salary is not 5 million a year.

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  • According to the organization’s 990 tax form, the NRA reported that LaPierre made $5,110,985 in annual compensation from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31, 2015. LaPierre made $985,885 in 2014. The vast majority of the salary jump, according to the NRA, was due to the payout of a $3.7 million retirement plan.

    “The NRA is transparent in its finances and in its reporting of the required Form 990,” NRA President Allan Cors said in a statement. “This is an employee funded deferred compensation plan and the $3.7 million distribution to Wayne LaPierre was required by federal law and properly reported.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/09/nra-chief-executive-received-nearly-4-million-retirement-payout-in-2015/?utm_term=.05f9915c14de

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  • I've been a member of GoA for about two years.

    I got fed up with the NRA begging for money on a weekly basis.

    Nice thing about the GOA is they'll send you alerts that link to your congressman and representative. Just click a couple of buttons and it auto fills in the form and emails it for you. As easy as it gets.

    Not that it makes a difference here in California, though I do enjoy the replies I get from my senators. Almost comical most of them.

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  • @ragnarnar said:

    I've been a member of GoA for about two years.

    I got fed up with the NRA begging for money on a weekly basis.

    Nice thing about the GOA is they'll send you alerts that link to your congressman and representative. Just click a couple of buttons and it auto fills in the form and emails it for you. As easy as it gets.

    Not that it makes a difference here in California, though I do enjoy the replies I get from my senators. Almost comical most of them.

    I wonder if our reps have the same ghost writers for their replies.
    I think NRA has learned from the GOA on the forms and making things simple and easy for folks to respond to politicians. The NRA/ILA now has the same features for both national and local delivery.
    As to the constant begging, I just don't answer unknown #s.
    I figure if they want to talk to me they will leave a message and I decide to call back or not.

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  • @mamalukino said:

    @ragnarnar said:

    I've been a member of GoA for about two years.

    I got fed up with the NRA begging for money on a weekly basis.

    Nice thing about the GOA is they'll send you alerts that link to your congressman and representative. Just click a couple of buttons and it auto fills in the form and emails it for you. As easy as it gets.

    Not that it makes a difference here in California, though I do enjoy the replies I get from my senators. Almost comical most of them.

    I wonder if our reps have the same ghost writers for their replies.
    I think NRA has learned from the GOA on the forms and making things simple and easy for folks to respond to politicians. The NRA/ILA now has the same features for both national and local delivery.
    As to the constant begging, I just don't answer unknown #s.
    I figure if they want to talk to me they will leave a message and I decide to call back or not.

    Mine do as I've gotten the same response for multiple things, word for word.



  • RJeMi7g.jpg

    I get a legitimate laugh from it.

    The second body paragraph in this letter regarding the hearing protection act.... I wish I was smart enough to pull of mental gymnastics like that.

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  • My wife and I are both life members of NRA. If it wasn't for NRA we would be in trouble. No I don't agree with every thing they do. But they have been the most effective pro gun. All together I belong to 5 different organizations as life member. I will stay with NRA.



  • @ragnarnar Yea, sounds like the same verbal diarrhea her goosestepping cohorts spiel here.
    They must have some kind of play book.

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  • So I guess I am doing something wrong cause my suppressors don't make my guns more deadly. As a matter of fact...neither do the short barrels on my sbr's.



  • @dddoo7

    You should contact the manufacturer in that case, I'm sure they would be interested to know their product doesn't function as designed.

    I actually responded to this email and challenged her on her argument.
    First she absolutely can't support her statement that she supports the individual right to own and use firearms based on her voting record.
    Second, It amounts to something like .01 percent of all shootings involve either auto or suppressed firearms. I had Mrs. Ragnarnar check. I even extended the offer to let Feinstein shoot some suppressed firearms, through professional connections I have.

    I realize it won't accomplish anything, or change her views, but I felt the need to tackle the amount of misinformation she tried to shovel my way.

    I'm going to be voting with my feet here shortly.

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  • Research the NRA's stance on suppressors. In that regard you'll find they have more in common with feinstein than not.



  • I have recently gotten NRA/ILA emails asking for support of the Hearing Protection Act of 2017 as well as support for a local Hawaii suppressor law.

    https://act.nraila.org/

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  • I do believe you that at one time the NRA was against suppressors. The first time i saw mention of them in the magazines was about 5 years ago. However today I have seen (and can post) where the NRA has fought in support of suppressors. You might convince me otherwise...and I am willing to listen...but everything I have read from the NRA in the last 5 years or so has been pro suppressors.



  • Maybe they are changing their stripes. I'll watch and see.

    The evils of their past will haunt them for some time among those of us with memories spanning more than 2 presidents. I also understand that while shooting has been a major part of my life for nearly my entire life... it has only become important to many recently. So it may not be bad memory, but rather they weren't "there" for it. Non-shooters care little for the activities of shooters, unless its to stop us, it seems.



  • The evils of the past is a good reason to get involved today.
    The NRA supported both the NFA and the gun control act of 1968. Past administrations were definitely not inline with the 2nd amendment.
    It was pissed off membership that took hold in the 70s and turned the boat around. From the mid to late 70s onward the direction changed and Wayne LaPierrre has been very instrumental in the direction taken over the last 36 years.
    By being a voting member you have a say in that direction, by being a member you are part of the largest voting block of 2nd Amendment supporters.
    Is it perfect? No. However there are alot of us watching the goings on and raising concern when the direction falters.

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  • In 1968 the NRA wasn't lobbying congress then. They didn't get into the politics until the early 70's.



  • The administration gave support to the NFA and the GCA . Because of the passing of the 1968 GCA there was an internal revolt.
    The ILA was formed and the direction of the NRA started focusing on legislative action.
    When Harlan Carter and Neil Knox were elected by the membership the NRA started active political assertion through lobbying and other efforts. The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 was a direct result of ILA's action.
    I have been a member of the NRA from the late 60s, early 70s and remember the internal strife some what. Here is a bit of the history:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association

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  • I been in the NRA from mid 60's. The information is close but far from complete.



  • @428cj No, it is not complete.
    The point is that the NRA has had a time when their advocacy of the 2nd Amendment was troubling but that changed 30 or so years ago.
    Today they are the prominent force defending the 2nd Amendment and regardless of their continuous fund raising, it is my opinion that all gun owners should become members.
    The political power that would empower would be devastating to the anti movement.

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  • @mamalukino said:

    @428cj No, it is not complete.
    The point is that the NRA has had a time when their advocacy of the 2nd Amendment was troubling but that changed 30 or so years ago.
    Today they are the prominent force defending the 2nd Amendment and regardless of their continuous fund raising, it is my opinion that all gun owners should become members.
    The political power that would empower would be devastating to the anti movement.

    Ok! People are lazy and with short memoirs and cheap. They get upset when it's to late, then bitch about it.



  • Here you go; you can enter without a contribution and if you are very very lucky you may be smiling at the end.:laughing:
    https://www.nrailadonate.org/winnertakeall/?ek=1722B10030

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