Shot show thread 2017



  • Instead of having many threads.

    Saw this this morning in a couple of places.

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    Also Nosler came out with a new Nosler branded case the 22 Nosler for an AR15

    https://www.nosler.com/blog/news-and-articles/2017/1/15/nosler-delivers-faster-cartridge-for-the-ar-15the-22-nosler



  • @rhyno

    PRC looks interesting. I hate that I am always skeptical of new things...so I will not be one to try it out until it has been out for a few years...or until Greg does...but it looks interesting.

    I wonder how it would feed in a DT. I assume it would require magnum mags therefore bolt stop removed. I wonder if this would lead to the same feeding issues some have had with WSM's. I guess with the DT and the magnum bolt face one might as well step up to a 26 nosler or 6.5LRM.



  • It sounds like it's based on the RCM cartridge and is slightly different the the 6.5 Gap 4s.

    And also it's slightly less in diameter and no rebated rim. I don't know how it would feed, but I would think it would be right at home in "intermediate" actions like Tikka (which IIRC has the same length action for long and short cartridges)

    That 22 Nosler is kind of interesting to.



  • @rhyno

    22 nosler would be one I would consider if I were building on an AR15 platform (hint, hint). I would still want a quality barrel (Krieger or WOA or similar) because I wouldn't want to give up accuracy for velocity. It would make a lightweight varmint/coyote gun with very little recoil and quick follow up shots. It shouldn't be much more expensive to load for except for the brass.



  • Don't think it hasn't already crossed my mind.

    6.8 mags are pretty plentiful, the specs on a 77 grain SMK don't seem all that faster then a regular 223 though, and Nosler brass is pricey.
    I thought of a 223ai not sure how that would run out of an AR.



  • @dddoo7 22 creedmoor is in your future...



  • Neat device that tracks a guns position through trigger pull and firing. I've seen this in the golf industry for a couple of years and wondered if it would make it to firearms.

    Neat but it can hurt a much a it help.

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/19/mantisx-shot-2017-2/



  • @tpk936

    Naa...maybe a 6.5 CM though.



  • @dddoo7 Why a 6.5 it is just a more efficient .308.. I almost went 6.5 but after a long conversation with Greg I am going with my first DT in 22 creed. It just looks like it will be to much fun to shoot.



  • @tpk936

    I am afraid of burning out the barrel in 6 months with a 22CM. I might do the same with a 6.5 but should't be as quick....although without having owned either of these I might be wrong on that assumption.

    The other one I am considering is the 7LRM. It WILL burn barrels...but performance is killer.



  • @dddoo7 I vote 7LRM...On the 22 creed I hear what you are saying on barrel Life. I am thinking 1500 to 2000 rounds based on what I have read but it could be less and it also depends on how hard are you pushing. I due not get enough range time and when I do go to the range I usually bring 3 long guns, but one is always my 40X 22lr convert. That gun gets a lot of rounds. For me to get 1500 rounds could take 2 years. The plan is to bring it to the class in May.



  • @tpk936 said:

    @dddoo7 I vote 7LRM...On the 22 creed I hear what you are saying on barrel Life. I am thinking 1500 to 2000 rounds based on what I have read but it could be less and it also depends on how hard are you pushing. I due not get enough range time and when I do go to the range I usually bring 3 long guns, but one is always my 40X 22lr convert. That gun gets a lot of rounds. For me to get 1500 rounds could take 2 years. The plan is to bring it to the class in May.

    I would surprised to see anything over 1500 on the 22 Creed. I had a 6mm Creed die at 1150 from pushing 105 Hybrids at 3170 with 41.8gr H4350



  • @tscustoms 1200 will work for me, if it gets that I would be happy. By the way how is it coming.



  • ARC has anew magazine coming out, not much details and only one picture that I've seen.

    Seekins has a bolt action they're working on.

    KRG also has a bolt action, and they'll have rifles as well.



  • After purchasing a DTA I no longer have much interest in conventional custom actions. I know they have their place...but not for me anymore.

    Thing is there are so many good 700 patterned actions out there I can't imagine them bringing anything new to the table...except for name.



  • The Seekins one has at least one interesing feature I haven't seen yet. Not saying that it doesn't exist.

    The locking lugs are 3-9 when in battery and 12-6 when out. That means you have a lug moving over the magazine, it should in theory help strip rounds out of the magazine.

    There's also four locking lugs, 2 in a row on each side.



  • This debuted at shot I guess.

    http://revic.us/

    Scope, with built in weather meter and ballistic computer.

    Dial the turrets up it displays the yardage your scope is now set at.

    Locking turrets, and if the batteries die acts as a normal scope.

    https://www.facebook.com/8541Tactical/posts/1205360676166295:0



  • That's quite cool. I wonder if they'll execute it well enough to be of value?



  • Also... I'd have preferred each new "gadget" to have it's own thread... that way useful discussion could happen regarding those things.



  • Looks like Revic.us was registered by Aaron@gunwerks.com that is a good sign.

    So if that's the case, I wonder who makes the scope.

    @orkan



  • @rhyno said:

    Looks like Revic.us was registered by Aaron@gunwerks.com that is a good sign.

    So if that's the case, I wonder who makes the scope.

    @orkan

    I had heard he was maybe working on something like this. Surprised it didn't come out under the G7 name.



  • Some great potential for that optic.



  • Maybe, the G7 name is for The Nighyforce partnership only, and this isn't with Nightforce.

    I dunno, very interesting optic.



  • Frank Galli said LOW is making the scope.



  • Cadex Kraken

    https://www.cadexdefence.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017-catalog_Cadex-Defence_rev2-web.pdf

    It is a multi caliber precision rifle made by cadex. 308-338 lap. It has a folding stock to save space.

    This thing is 5 lb heavier than an SRS-A1. Right at 50% more weight.

    It is short. It is as short as a 26" barreled desert tech...but only when the stock is folded...so only for storage...not use. When unfolded it is 10" longer than the SRS.

    Barrel is changed with a large pry bar/torque wrench combo and then barrel is threaded out. It can be changed in "mere seconds" according to marketing hype. After watching the video it looks complicated compared to DT.

    Retail is over $7000. Almost half again the cost of an SRS.

    About the only thing this rifle has going for it that I actually like is that it accepts AI mags...but that is minimal.

    Maybe I'm skeptical...but I don't see it.



  • @rhyno said:

    Frank Galli said LOW is making the scope.

    IOR? I'm assuming autocorrect.



  • @dddoo7 Nope LOW.

    Light Optic Works Japan, they make the Athlon Cronus, and a lot of the Vortex Razor HD2.

    The mag range is right in those two, 4.5-28 or 29.

    They make a lot of scopes for a lot of companies, if it says Made in Japan there's a Good chance it's from LOW

    http://www.light-op.co.jp/english/?page_id=22



  • Sounds like pretty typical cadex right there. Massively overpriced, and short on innovation.



  • I bet that 4 lug bolt has an aaaaaaawesome bolt lift....... actually probably not.



  • New ARC magazine.

    Having to keep it clean is kind of disappointing, it gets dusty here. Still wouldn't mind picking one up to try.



  • 99% of the Lawyers make the rest look bad.

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  • A little tiny teeny bit more on that REVIC scope.

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/16/new-revic-pmr428-scope-fully-integrated-ballistic-solver-hud/

    And also I finally figured out what the turrets kind of reminded me of, a Premier, which make sense since Rumor has it that the guys behind Premier designed this, and LOW might be producing it.


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