In looking around I guess I never introduced my self.
My name is Dave and I have been into guns, shooting and hunting since I was 10-11yrs old (49yrs now). I am the only one in my immediate family that had this interest and desire so what I have learned I for the most part was on my own to find the answer. Out of my entire family only me and my cousin have this hardcore hobby. The first gun I got (after the BB gun) was an Marlin Golden 39A 22lr my dad bought me for my 12th Birthday.
I am a grandson of Dairy farmers so as I was young the outdoors were something I knew and enjoyed. While I had no desire for the farming aspect (while helping and bailing hay you quickly realize if it's for you or not) I am very proud of that side of my family and have great respect for farmers and what they do.
I am married and have no children but love my 2 dogs and those before them. So my wife and I are dog lovers, I have been around them all my life. My mom and dad even bred and showed Old English Sheepdogs for years when I was younger.
While I am still learning the tech. side of shooting and reloading I really enjoy shooting and owning them. I have never sold any gun I have acquired, I just get another one when I can afford it after life's responsibilities.
Just heard the interview on precision rife podcast and was interested in the load data & gun logging. I will be watching the forum and hope to add to discussions as appropriate ( no keyboard sniper here lol).
I was able to do some shooting today. 3 weeks between range trips is way to long. I now have 1186 rounds on my 22 creedmoor. The temp was 52 wind 7-18 wnw. A lot of mirage today.
some 22 lr at 50 yards. Wind did present a lot of challenge.
The 14 twist 6br continues to deliver.
22 creed with peterson 6 creed srp brass and 82gr bergers and 80.5gr bergers
22 creed with alpha 22 creed brass. 82 and 80.5 gr bergers
22 creed with lapua 6.5 srp brass.
It was good to get to the range.
Interesting article. I grew up on a farm and when I was younger did not always make the smartest choices on a day to day basis regarding protecting my hearing. Now I wear ear plugs for just about everything.
Previously a suppressor was on my list of wants but not a priority. This has me wondering if I should move it up in the priority list.
25 rounds from the TL3. 223. Shot the bottom 2 then came up .1 Mil. Had two flyers hit on top of each other to the left, both were honest good shots so I’m not sure what that was about. I had some differences in seating pressure I believe is due to some of this brass being sized by a different whidden die that I had to return for not sizing the neck enough. That may have been what caused the flyers.
Group minus the flyers and .224 for the bullet.
Group including the flyers minus .224 for the bullet
Worked with a new load today.
3.5 grains of Titegroup under a Ranier plated 124 RN.
A 48 ounce pistol gets heavy after 100 draws.
I need to start doing curls again.
Shot half of a brick of 22LR out of the Kimber too.
Concentrating on first round hits from the draw after the starting beep.
Time to start spraying for bugs and weeds to keep my firing lane clear through the woods.
Next project is a rifle firing position of sand set Pavers over gravel for drainage.
Then I get the rifle back into the rotation for some 50 yard small bore.
New holster for my Shadow 2 is nice.
Nearly 5k of 9mm since November.
POS Taurus 44 Magnum broke. It is sidelined. I think that the frame stretched from being fired too frequently with some modest loads. Last shot wedged the bullet in the forcing cone and the cylinder flopped open. Cylinder will not even latch now. Loads were well below book max. Didn't even finish the 250 round box of Berry's 240 HP.
Walther / Colt 1911 22LR clone broke a striker and Walther sent the replacement for free.
The Kimber Rimfire Target just keeps on rocking.
Will probably have a blister come up on my thumb from where it rubs against the extended left side safety on the CZ with my high grip. I may remove the safety and dress the sharp edges with a small file and emory paper. Need to get some cold blue first.
So not a range report, but I want to post my upcoming venture into working up loads with the 178 ELD-M's.
I have 370 rounds on my Krieger Barrel.
I have twice fired Lapua brass from this chamber
The brass has been annealed, sized with bump back of .003, trimmed
Going to switch to CCI 200 primers for these rounds vs the WLR.
I can't find shared data on the 178 ELD-M, but knowing the shape and weight of the bullet is close to the AMax, I'm pretty comfortable with charges in the 42.5-44.0 range with IMR4064
Now here's what I've been thinking. I'm not the greatest group shooter. I just don't have the time to dedicate to practice at this time. The method is finding a pressure node with just ten rounds, not even worried about where the bullets impact. You shoot your rounds over your chrono, then come back and plot the speeds vs the charge weight and look for flat spots in your pressure climb. (for more data, you could shoot 2-3 rounds of each charge weight) This is your pressure node. Once you have your pressure node you can then load up another 5-10 rounds to proof this charge weight. Then play with seating depth. These last two steps you do need to shoot on paper.
Since this place is all about proving and showing your work. I'm going to give this method a run and post how it goes. Worst case, I wasted 10-30 rounds.
I have no first hand knowledge of the Nucleus Action but can tell you that both of my boy's 10 and 13 are shooting 6br's. The reason that I went with the caliber selection that I did is it is inherently accurate or very easy to load for. There is high quality components available. But more than that it is Ballisticly very close to a 308 with out the recoil of it. Meaning they can learn to shoot dope the wind and do it with a cartridge that wont beat them up. There is a lot of good chambering's out there offered but I did not want to be setting up a wildcat and creating any extra work for kids learning to shoot and reload.
The margins are not that high anyway. So for a Dick to want 20% off would leave nothing. When I was starting my business I became friends with an old man who had a very high end audio business (McIntosh) for 30+yrs, he said to me "the fastest way to bankruptcy is to deal with friends and family" because they want the big discounts and he said the prices are what they are, for everyone.
I was looking into adding audio to my business and he said in regards to A/V if you want to retire and die with a million $ in this business you have to start with 2. After looking into it and signing with some distributors I quickly seen what margins were and big box stores selling at what my cost was and those questions came at me all the time, so I phased that out quickly.
For what I have seen you do (or willing to do) for people who bought elsewhere like fixing there broke shit for nothing. Price shouldn't be an issue except to know what something is so they can save up for it.
I made a stainless one that is the same length as a RCBS extended shell holder. It would be a bit shorter than yours but not near as long as the one I plan to use. I just haven't needed to prime anything yet but in the near future I will. When I mess with brass that had crimped primers I usually use the swaging tool and also barely hit the pocket mouth with a chamfer tool. It puts a little lead angle on the diameter and the primers go in a lot easier. Some brass has a generous chamfer on the pockets like Hornady and some not so much on others like Federal. I'm still not so sure this new tool is telling me much, maybe bullet runout once it's been seated. Checking the necks on the center for true is debatable, I might just be seeing thickness variations. I was really surprised the resized brass was this true and I ran the indicator in several places along the brass just to see. I'm going to pull some range brass out and see what it looks like shot in other peoples guns. Just about every rifle I have was built in the same shop by the same gunsmith using his reamers but there has to be an ugly duck somewhere.
Aero Precision and Lewis Machine (LMT) also make 6.5CR AR10-style rifles. I don't know much about them, I just know they make them. I think the Aero uppers are proprietary, only fitting their handguards.
Back in 2005 I believe I had two Mauser actions barrelled with Remington 260 Midway Barrels. One was a bull barrel for a friend of mine as a birthday present and the other was a lighter weight contour for a basic hunting rig. I did a little work on them mostly stock fitting and and some polishing before bluing. I might have drilled and tapped the receivers for scope mounts I don't remember. Anyway, I loaded all the ammo for my friends rifle up until two years ago when he was killed in a tractor accident. I grabbed a load using BLC-2 out of a manual with 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips and never changed a thing and he came back every other year for two to three twenty round boxes and returned the brass. One year I loaded him one hundred and didn't see him for a while. I don't know how many animals he killed with it but he never complained so I figured all was good. I have the lighter barrelled rifle and after thirteen years I decided it's time to shoot it again. I found a target with a three shot group I suppose I shot using 35.0 grains of Varget and 120 grain Nosler BT's. It looked promising so I loaded a fifteen rounds starting at 36 grains of Varget working up to 37 grains. Book says 40 is max. I bought a box of Hornady 130 Gr. ELD Match yesterday for comparison and took everything to the range for a try. First shot with the factory load went four inches high and about an inch and a half left. When I got home yesterday I found the stock has warped putting some pressure on the right side of the barrel however slightly. The barrel is free floated except where it's hitting now and I will fix that. Not trying to make excuses but I had about the crappiest set up with bags and I couldn't get the bipod on it so I'm hoping this isn't a real representation of what I can do with some load work and better optics. Wind was steady sixteen gusting to about twenty and variable depending on the showers spitting rain everywhere yesterday. I got tired of messing with the scope and shot three of the factory for a group and moved on to my handloads. The handloads are messy, real messy so It's time to get started and I have some brass to work with. The 130 grain ELD delivered the best groups so that might be a good starting point for projectiles and I don't have a single one.
98 Mauser / Midway .260 Remington Barrel
Simmons Aetec 2.5x10 In Redfield Base And Rings
Military Stock Recontoured And Barrel Floated
Bold Adjustable Trigger 4#
Bolt Handle And Machine Work Performed By Refugio Industries Refugio Texas
It’s barrel dependent, some will stabilize heavier pills than others. Velocity will also play a part in stability as well. Generally the 1 in 9 twist is good for 69 and under but I had one 9 twist barrel that wouldn’t take anything over 60 grainers.
I had the 77s loaded with 23.0 RL15 for a 20" AR with a 9 twist. They shot real well in that barrel also.
I believe the 9" rate varies from maker to maker; some are 8.6 and some are 9.40 (or there abouts) actual twist.
Once I figured out that there wasn't actually someone named Brain Allen. lol
Haha my bad damn phone auto corrects the dumbest stuff sometimes. Yes that him, he has a team now called the A team with him, his daughter, wife, and a few others. They are all good shooters.
Isn’t hornady the only supplier right now?
@norcal_in_az said in 6.5 PRC:
Do you think we can still get those 155 Hybrids into a Accurate mag still?
Anything will fit if you jam the bullet into the case enough. ;)
The range I recently became a member of had a RSO open up the 600 yard range today. Because I haven't taken there long range course yet I am not able to shoot on the range without an RSO.
There was a cross breeze varying from 5-15 mph this afternoon with it varying from 0 out to 600 yards. I spent most of my time working on some clay pigeons on the 600 yard berm and doing my best to play the wind.
ALOT of people (myself included) have 21st century at orkan’s recommendation. And the thing is a lot more would in the future as well. Yet they cut their own throat over a priming tool. When a business treats people right, customers notice and will recommend them. When a business treats the wrong person dirty, then they will lose a lot of business due to word of mouth.
Yeah... I think he picked the wrong person as you say to tick off. Greg's growing following has some buying power. Clearly a fact Mr. 21 Century did not consider that. His short view of customer service should show up in his bottom line fairly quickly.
At least when it melts you will have moisture enough to grow grass. The first hot day here and we will be browned out for the summer already. Doesn't matter how much it rains in May if it doesn't rain in March and April too.
It's all part of the plan to make us all felons so we can be deprived of our rights and fined into state-dependent poverty.
That is exactly the truth of it. Yet who among us other than a select few believes this? The average American citizen is in a constant state of denial.
The 223 isn’t gonna be over kill on prairie dogs at all.
Yes, but if memory serves he's talking "ground squirrels" which are little gopher type critters. .223 is a bit much on those little guys. hehe. Still fun though.
When you say inconsistent do you mean critter detonation?
No, I mean accuracy. I've had some strange flyers at distance. You'd need to wring it out for sure.
Just to get you excited... here's me beating up on some local prairie dogs with my .17 remington. The far dogs were just inside of 400.
Man I needed that. It was a good laugh especially the choice of music applied to the end.
I always love the people that say “imagine how much more @orkan would sell if he was like this or that”. People want to jump on the bandwagon to be part of the internet cool kids club and bash people. Instead of just keeping their opinions to themselves and letting their money do the talking. If you don’t like someone and don’t want to support them, spend your money elsewhere.
Sadly to many retailers in all aspects of American life, are completely kiss ass to their customers. The customer is always right mentality has killed honesty when shopping. The customer is not always right. The American shopper has been trained to get whatever they want no matter if it’s right or wrong.
I don't know that I'm bashing anyone. I try to treat others like I'd like to be treated. That's one of my guiding principles in life. To me that's the Christian thing to do. If I need to take a hit for that, so be it.
Pretty good idea fella, so you cut one leg of the checkrest off which allowed it to move off center?
Then find "sweet Spot" and shim.
I used brass washers at first, then filled 1/4" with the aluminum "shim" and added washers till alignment was right.
If I had the machinery I could have made some drop in shims to make the process easier.
I wonder if anyone has given any thought to what you make another person endure to earn that trust? How are you able to determine whether you trust them or not when you yourself lack the experience to determine whether they are trust worthy? What is your trust worth to them when that expert knows you lack the experience to know, but force them to try to prove it to you anyway every time you speak? Why does everyone try to gain trust, or give trust, within the course of a phone call... when everyone knows that real trust takes a long time to develop?
This is at the very heart of this discussion. This is why I say we are witnessing the death of the experts, in every field. The demand that experts must pay for the sins of charlatans that came before them is unreasonable, and unwanted. There comes a time when the expert will simply refuse to joust with you any longer. They will simply refuse the expectation to pay penance for transgressions of those before them. At that time the expert will simply return to the solace of their work, in silence. They'll leave you to your defense mechanisms and assumptions to wander around a blind idiot rather than endure one more singular second of your "testing."
Today I had a gentleman in his 50's or 60's come by. Possibly even older. I am terrible at judging age, because it's largely inconsequential... but its a given that older men tend to be easier to talk facts with. It was refreshing. Plain talk, at a gentle pace... neither of us awaiting the end of the other person's speech so we could jam our own words in. Comfortable silences amidst sincere discussion and at no time was I bludgeoned with the unreasonable expectation of having to answer for the misdeeds of my peers in this industry. It reminded me of how simply and effortlessly it is to share my experience with another person. It made my day. Possibly my week. I didn't sell a thing. The hour and half of intelligent meaningful discussion with a genuinely interested person was priceless. The man left with a lot to think on, and my invitation to return anytime he wanted. It was nice to have my faith in humanity restored a bit. A refreshing departure from my normal day to day discussions where I endure people fixated on price and how quickly said product can be put in their hands or being grilled about what I think about something so-and-so said.
A resurgence of civilized discussion, combined with a distinct personal accountability and refusal to perpetuate myth... would seem to be heading toward a solution to all of this.
Regarding civilized discussion, if people could learn to speak plainly again, it would go a long way. Ask a question without simultaneously trying to convince the other party you already know the answer. Make a statement of fact only if you can prove the fact simply and readily. Don't speak at all if you lack the experience to even have intelligently formed an opinion.
Personal accountability would help because then you wouldn't be trying to hold person B accountable for the actions of person A.
To me this is all very simple, and I live my life according to these and other principles. Each time I'm expected to pay for the misdeeds of someone else, I'm quite confused by it. Yet not a single day goes by in which someone doesn't force that upon me. I'm quite certain others here have experienced that as well.
Until people start having real conversations about personal responsibility, freedom will continue to be annihilated.
Yup we need a correction in society for that to happen. Sadly I don’t see that correction coming in my lifetime. We have to continue further down the rabbit hole giving up freedom for most people to realize what it is they’re giving up. Our society is still vastly okay with giving up freedom for more governmental control.
Ive had a good bit of time behind this trigger now and still very impressed. Shot a match today and it rained on us ALL day long, sometimes very heavy rain. Every inch of the rifles were covered in water and mud. The trigger never missed a beat, and ran smooth as silk through the entire match. Obviously a personal preference but for me it helped with breaking the shots cleanly while shooting off barricades and positional shooting. One stage was a three position freehand stage where nothing other tahan a sling could be used. 3 rounds from each sitting,kneeling, and standing positions at a 66% ipsa at 300 yards. I was able to land 7 out of 9 rounds while fighting a fogged up scope, fog sitting in over the lake, and rain running down the glass on both ends of the scope.
I bought another one of these triggers used for the .223 Travis built and had some problems with it resetting, so before I adjusted the sear I called Tom and CG Extreme and he agreed it was most likely the sear needed to be adjusted but since I bought it used offered to rebuild the trigger for free just to be safe and to avoid any problems. I think that alone speaks volumes for his company.
Not to my knowledge. More legislation and laws will not fix this issue. Not that I'm saying you're advocating it, but it's pretty self evident that a backstop is important when taking shots.
I wasn't necessarily talking about local laws, just more referring to standards of safety. We are going to set up a range on my wife's family farm and I would like to do whatever we need to do for safety reasons. It is pretty remote, but people can still be wandering around out there, especially during deer season. So I want to do things within reason to prevent an unforeseen tragedy, as well as avoid the resulting law suits.
This is the property, most of what is pictured belongs to the family. The land is all rolling hills and ravines, so finding a suitable backstop is easy. But as you can tell it is also almost completely covered in a mature mixed forest, so we would need to cut something of a clearing to have a line of sight. But cutting a really wide area to provide a line of sight for someone entering the area would be difficult. If we wanted to really be thorough, we would need to string ropes or wire with warning signs through the woods well past the clearing line. I am just not sure as to what is accepted as reasonable.
The power line clearing at the bottom has a couple of good cleared areas to shoot, I just don't know what they would think about us shooting on their right of way, next to some 100,000V HT lines. Probably not much if I am guessing.
Both videos are just crazy.
Here in PA we have very very few wild pheasant left. Aside from very select areas, if you want to go bird hunting - you take your dog to the state game lands where they are stocked (guys literally will wait til the stocking truck leaves, flush every bird in sight to get their 2 bird daily limit, and leave).
Even with stocked birds I can say our group never has shot a bird on the ground, ever. Defeats the point of, you know, hunting birds, something that flies, with a shotgun ...
Both accounts, just pathetic.
@dddoo7 If I am not mistaken he has a couple 22 creeds built.
Well fella the way see it, that’s un fair to these rifles. They bound to be jealous of each other. To show my appreciation for all the help you have been, I’ll gladly hold on to at least one of those for you free of charge.
Life's never been fair to me. No reason my rifles should have an easy go of it.