@dddoo7 said in They don't want you to go help your kids.:
Yet you have to trust the prosecutor, judge, and jury to do the right thing.
Good luck with that. Prosecutors are basically the most corrupt class of human being that presently exist.
I've never given the NRA one cent because I never could figure out what they do for me.
Logically I would think the "National Rifle Association" should be a big club that helps people with their rifles. But I have never been big on clubs, especially big clubs.
That said, I read about historical events, like Carlos Hathcock winning the "Wimbleton Cup" in 1965 and the Commandant of the Marine Corps was sitting in the stands etc. Must have been an honor in those days.
I just ignore the NRA, and so far, they have ignored me as well. And I'm ok with that. I won't bother them, if they don't bother me. That's my general attitude towards everyone. :)
@orkan said in FBI Releases Active Shooter Incidents in the United States in 2016 and 2017:
The government does NOTHING without an agenda. You can be sure of that.
. . . and that goes for individuals as well.
If the gun industry would only sell civilian legal weapons to the government, then we would not be having the problems with the 2A that we are having.
That would also include no full auto...until civilians can have them, no SBR's, SBS's, no suppressors, no ordinance...nothing...unless civilians can freely have them. That is the whole point of the 2A...yet when companies are willing to sell out to the government it gives them the power that citizens should have.
Thanks for that, I didn't mean to propagate anything fake. I should have looked into it a little deeper before posting, I usually do look into all info but somehow missed this one. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again, I got caught up scouring for the latest info.
Sorry about that I will delete that post.
The gun control discussion has gotten so irrational that it appears facts will not matter any more. The school resource officer that chose to not engage the shooter in Florida and the SRO in Maryland that did engage the shooter and prevented another mass shooting illustrates the point that no matted how much good the possession of a firearm provides, that simple fact will never see the light of day in the mainstream media.
In Florida when a newspaper wasn't worth a crap for it's reporting, we used to say it wasn't fit to wrap mullet in. It seems our news outlets are fit for even less.
We don't get the news anymore... we get the opinions of the liberal media which cherry pick to facts to suit their agenda. The days of Walter Cronkite are so history.
Too much of our media is owned by too few with a clear far left agenda. Heck even NPR seems to have a liberal agenda days!!!!
One of the things that I already heard and has just came out is that the shooter in Maryland shot himself in the head but the officer did shoot him in the hand though which is far better then what the Fla piece of shit officer did. Now the piece of shit sheriff in Fla is siding with the stupid kids and their Anti-gun owning shit. My guess would be so at least those kids and their stupid parents will keep him instead of kicking his ass out. IMO any person with 1/2 a brain would have denied that school Cop his retirement until all investigations were completed and if it was found that he did nothing he should have lost his retirement for dereliction of duty resulting in 17 deaths. But those facts and the fact that all police and FBI lazy asses re not being addressed by anyone of these so-called smart brave kids and their parents.
Dumb fuck David Hogg's dad is ex-FBI which might explain something.
I would suspect that you would have to look at how you let people into the site differently.
Any random troll group could hop on a site send a couple of PMs report it to the police and the next thing you know your getting sued as the site owner and you had no knowledge of it going on.
I have been a strong NRA supporter as well as a recruiter; however I always recommended joining both the NRA and Gun Owners of America as well.
The Gun Owners of America is a no compromise organization. They have always fought any law compromising our unalienable rights to bear arms. I have endorsed them and been a member for many years and preferred their leadership to the NRA.
The only thing the NRA had over GOA was membership numbers. The NRA came to the political table with a lot of voters in their membership.
Please think about joining a non compromising organization like the GOA. Membership numbers are political clout. There are some fine orgs. out there both locally and nationally.
Here is GOA's website:
Virginia Delegate Nick Freitas engaged in such a harsh dose of truth telling over the Second Amendment and how to prevent gun violence that Democrats were forced to put themselves in timeout to cool off.
But not before many walked out of the Virginia House of Delegates in outrage.
That was one elegant discussion of the issue. It seems that no matter how well supported the argument, you simply won't change a gun grabber's mind.
I am a life member and always supported the NRA, but not any more.
I have supported them due to the number and strength in membership that they wield politically, but not anymore.
Along with advocacy for the NRA, I have always recommended membership in the GOA of which I am a lifetime member also.
I advocate leaving the NRA and becoming a GOA member or as Orkan also suggested the JPFO.
I think the system is OK its the people in it that need to go. Look at the recent ruling by the FCC regarding internet neutrality. 80% of the population wanted the rules to stay in force. These were rules that don't allow internet service providers to play games with what we get when we do internet searches. These regulations also keep ISP's from charging more if you stream video.
I'm tired of Democrats trying to give away the farm, and I'm tired of Republicans removing regulation that protect consumers and pander to big corporations...
Ever listen to the words Wash it All Away by 5 Finger Death Punch?
No. Not insane at all.
It is the logical and totally predictable result of a society comprised of the kind of people we have walking around today. No one takes responsibility for anything, largely because someone is looking to sue EVERYONE for anything they can. ... and thanks to our disgustingly corrupt police and justice system, they can sue anyone they want, lie to the police about anyone they want, and there are no repercussions for the prosecutors charging people with no evidence, or the people falsifying reports, or police arresting people for crimes they didn't commit.
When it happens to you, you'll realize that you're alone. No one will step in front of it for you. No one will call someone and rationally explain the situation. The prosecutor won't have an attack of conscience and stop trying to ruin your life. The police won't come to their senses and tell the truth about the people lying about you. If you don't have hard video evidence with embedded audio proving your version of events... you're fucked.
... and because they spend the majority of their time trying to prosecute innocent people for crimes they didn't commit, they won't be able to tell the difference between a case they should press and a case they shouldn't press. ... because they press them all, and because they press them all, citizens on jury's will never have a fucking clue who to trust, so they'll just push their own agendas.
Trust in law enforcement and government has NEVER been lower in this country than it is right now. ... and it's going to go lower yet. Much lower.
I agree with you both; it is an exercise in futility; however, I continue to participate to put my stance on record. I would love to see the USA I grew up in return. Sometimes there is the glean of hope.
However, as you said^^^^
"It wouldn't last. Just for the simple fact that people in general are driven by power and greed. They have turned away from the core beliefs this country was founded on and they have turned their backs on God. Without him, nothing is possible. This has been a huge problem many years prior to these events. "
I know mine ARE; they are goose steppers toeing the delusional lines of Chucky "weasel boy" Schumer and Nacy "LOOOOOOney" tune Pelosi.
I continuously email them and often receive their patronizing BS answers. When their manure is confronted with actual facts, nothing but silence.
There is a lot missing from that story.
Good job on the parents behalf for stepping in. But I can imagen that the parents are roll model parents if their child was even planning an attack.
Then upon discovering it, they turn their kid over to the cops. Yeah, I'm sure they are a perfect example of a modern "family" which is ridiculous in beliefs and devoid of morals.
That was a typo on my end...it should have said can't imagen.
Your right about the morals. If the kid was taught morals and the value of human life, she would have never planned an attack.
Quite true. Yet that's more of the same problem, isn't it?
Indeed it is, and it's truly sad that many parents today see schools as nothing more than a free babysitter, but they could care less about bringing up kids with good values.
I guess it depends on the areas. I have a friend that works for the company I work for that used to live in AZ and they moved to Mexico because they got a good deal on a beach front condo in Mexico. The community is a closed community and the school her son is going to teaches all kids from people from the US. She said it's pretty safe in that area, being that it's a very touristy place, the government protects it a great deal since tourism is a major contributor to Mexico's economy.
On the other hand, I just got back from the border in TX because an aunt of mine died and she had no family, so I had to go to Mexico to make burial arrangements. There was a military check point and a force of about 800 soldiers living in new housing in the town I grew up in. There was a lot of federal police as well. It's not uncommon to see armed police and military now a days, thanx to the F**ng cartels that rolled into border towns to control the traffic of drugs and people. When there were wars between the 2 major cartels across the border from my house, I used to hear machine gun fire and even grenades going off across from my house in TX, which is 3 blocks from the border. But you are all correct, foreigners have little rights in Mexico.
Mark my words...before long it will be illegal to ship guns via train.
Criminals will find a way regardless of laws.
That won't stop them from passing MORE laws that only strip our freedom and have nothing to do with safety.